One in six PIP claimants have no extra costs linked to their disability

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/40693771/pip-claimants-disability-benefit/
So, can money be saved here?

Maybe just don't believe everything you read in the papers! Surely if someone had actually found a way of assessing people as to whether they qualify for benefits that was BETTER that how people are currently actually assessed for benefits and had then found that the old way was so inaccurate that 1 in 6 claims were wrong, they'd be blasting their SUPERIOR methods everywhere?! There is NOTHING in this article that says how they got this info which means they most probably didn't even get it!

My extra costs will be all of my 50k savings because I can only work for 1-2 hours a day.

Can you imagine every day having to choose between work (and completely destroying your health) or taking things at a sustainable pace and potentially ending up losing your home?

Just have a little think about it and employ a bit of empathy. Try to imagine that happening to you or a loved one at some point in the future. It's easy if you just engage your brain and realise that not everyone has the same level of energy as you do.

Maybe watch the news too?

This makes no sense whatsoever, and is in no way comparable to someone living with a disability!

so basically what you're saying is...

the right-wing leaning press that aligns with the 2 main opposition parties is having a pop at a Labour government over benefit spending to foment much rabid frothing among the hard of thinking ?

Such innovative and tactical genii 😂

Probably because they are being asked to pay for them - not in itself unreasonable - but also not unreasonable to ask that only money needed is being paid out. The idea is that the extra costs of a disability are shared by society so shouldn’t we all want to ensure that money isn’t being paid out for costs that don’t exist? That’s what’s best for everyone. That’s not ableist.

Whether the research is accurate/ableist is a different matter though. But I don’t care enough to open the link to form a view.

It's so bloody hard to get PIP and the amount that you have to prove.
I have several conditions which affect my ability to work full time and I was turned down for it. 2 of my kids that had DLA as children and EHCPs at school were not awarded PIP. Only one of mine got it.

What are you trying to save money for out of disabled people??

You don’t think others might also like to attend all their children’s sports events? Yet they are paying for you to do so.

This report is about reforms in the PIP system, not taking it away

"There's no perfect system of disability support. But we can have one that better reflects people's often multiple and fluctuating conditions, targets greater support and engagement where it’s needed, and avoids waste where it’s not."

The issue is that it is so varied depending on the disability and then also on the person.

Not to mention the fact that the highest rate of PIP/DLA won't come close to some people's disability expenses.

What to do? Just keep on paying out and raising taxes.

No one is saying that. This report is from a left leaning think tank. Ignore the reporting and go to the source.

The hypocrisy of calling making slurs on people intellectual ability when trying to call out ablism is shocking.

If we want to try to reduce the number of people claiming benefits such as PIP we need to tackle the root causes not leave people struggling. We need better mental health services, especially for young people. We need shorter NHS waiting lists so people don’t even up deteriorating further while waiting. We need better support in place to help people work (I know PIP isn’t an out of work benefit but many claim it because they are unable to work)

we need an education system that is fit for purpose and works for everyone not just the academic.

this really is a case of prevention is better than cure. But that takes time and investment and won’t save money overnight so people won’t accept that!

I would take what that poster is saying with a pinch, or two, of salt.

You're exactly right. Benefits obviously have their place to support those who can't work, have additional costs due to a disability etc, but the fact there's a mum on this post saying she sends her kids to private school and works part time out of choice, and receives £1000 a month in benefits proves this system needs an overhaul. I know plenty of parents who have got a ADHD diagnosis for their child(ren) and are financially "rewarded" despite thier children's needs having no (or very little) financial impact on the family. My daughter has sensory issues, and I spend an absolute fortune having to purchase seamfree specific clothing, bedding, shoes as she cannot tolerate standard things. Same with foods, she has a very specific diet that costs a lot more than my non sensory child. I haven't sought a diagnosis for my child, as I don't want to put a label on her or claim money "because I can". It's my job as a parent to support and provide for my child, and the extra I have to find to buy her specialist items mean i have to work a lot more hours than I'd like to. But that is life. This mentality of "I'm entitled to it" needs to stop. Then the people who actually really do need the extra help and support will be able to get it without having to jump through hoops.

I don’t think anyone has a problem with people genuinely needing help with disabilities. It’s more the people who DO use PIP as a lifestyle choice and then have the cheek to complain about the state of the NHS and lack of funds for defence.

Exactly- avoiding waste- if they can isn’t that what is necessary . Don’t envy those making the decisions though.

"PIP as a lifestyle choice"

What exactly do you mean with that?

Based on one person you think the system needs an overhaul?

Oh here we fucking go again. I think there should be a sperate "PIP bashing" board, where all the ablists can go to and seethe to their hard hearts content.

Just because it’s not obvious doesn’t mean they don’t have extra expenses . Do they need more transport, specific food or clothes etc due to sensory issues?

There are big issues with the fiscal management of this country and I am confused why there are so many trends about PIP recently. Why go for the disabled first?

DLA is based on needs, a diagnosis isn't required.

I don't think anyone denies the system needs an overhaul. But it shouldn't be at the expense of disabled people

Isn’t it just.

I thought the same, but it sees to touch a nerve with some!