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One in six PIP claimants have no extra costs linked to their disability

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Allseeingallknowing · 15/10/2026 14:39

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/40693771/pip-claimants-disability-benefit/
So, can money be saved here?

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BugJuice · 15/10/2026 22:00

My son wouldn’t have a clue what level of additional costs are involved in his care, as his disability means that he doesn’t have that level of understanding.

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:01

TopPocketFind · 15/10/2026 21:56

What are you suggesting should happen to these people instead?

Not my problem, they don’t lie awake at night worrying about how the stretched taxpayer will raise the cash do they?

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:01

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 21:58

Many in receipt of PIP will be NEET , which not only means they lack the ability to generate their own income yet or at all, they are home full time & therefore consuming mch more in terms of food, entertainment, education & utilities.

So get a job and stop sitting around watching Netflix? No sympathy, sorry

My young cousin spent a year looking for work before she found anything. And she applied for everything going.

I know boomer hate is a thing on here... seems it also applies to young people too.

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 22:01

ExpectMore · 15/10/2026 21:58

Whilst not ideal, it might be worth your son going private as it’s only a few hundred £ if it’s causing him significant issues (which I’m assuming it might be if he’s a teenager and into sports etc).

Yes anyone with the money for it tends to go private with chiropody due to waiting lists. It's the kind of things pip can be spent on.

roaringdragon · 15/10/2026 22:02

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 21:58

@Kirbert2 no I don't think they will come for children. That is an election loser policy.
The aim is to cut the spiralling number of young people on pip and get them into work. No one wants a generation of young people on benefits for life, when their parents and grandparents did work with the same issues.

We all know it is very common for young adults with ADHD and autism to have at least one parent and grandparent with the same issues, but who do work and care for themselves.

Then you haven’t read the recent Child Disability Living Allowance. A Policy Exchange Research Note report by Policy Exchange. That does recommend cutbacks to DLA. Jean-André Prager is one of the authors and was also one of the PIP Timms review steering members.

Kirbert2 · 15/10/2026 22:02

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 21:58

@Kirbert2 no I don't think they will come for children. That is an election loser policy.
The aim is to cut the spiralling number of young people on pip and get them into work. No one wants a generation of young people on benefits for life, when their parents and grandparents did work with the same issues.

We all know it is very common for young adults with ADHD and autism to have at least one parent and grandparent with the same issues, but who do work and care for themselves.

I believe Kemi has already talked about cutting DLA for some disabilities.

Also in just 5 years, my child will be a young person on PIP (if it still exists then).

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:02

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 21:54

But PIP is not awarded due to addiction.
Addicts don't stop if their money is stopped. They turn to crime instead.
How is that helpful?

They commit the crime anyway. You sound so naive!

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 22:02

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:01

My young cousin spent a year looking for work before she found anything. And she applied for everything going.

I know boomer hate is a thing on here... seems it also applies to young people too.

Getting a job is very hard at the minute, especially in some areas of the country.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 22:03

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 21:06

Many disabled people would be caught up in means testing too. Not because they have money, but because their partner does.

Household income is a determining factor for other state payments.

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:04

CousinBette · 15/10/2026 21:58

So? Household income has been taken into account for years for certain benefits.

PIP is a payment to an individual because they are disabled. Not their household... them.

I am on PIP. So now any man should give me a hard swerve now because he will have to finance my disabilities. Thanks.

TopPocketFind · 15/10/2026 22:04

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:01

Not my problem, they don’t lie awake at night worrying about how the stretched taxpayer will raise the cash do they?

Not yourr problem?

Bet you will complain when you see more homeless people or crimes being committed.

And the money that that will cost.

Holidaymodeon · 15/10/2026 22:05

People never want to hear the full story, preferring to make sweeping judgments, statements and assumptions based on soundbites and piecemeal surveys, as usual battering the most vulnerable in our society.

most parents of children with extra needs are struggling to survive at home.
often parents have disabilities and extra needs themselves, and certainly mental health issues often co-exist with all these pressures.
no proper social care, employers who treat legal accessibility duties like an afterthought, and largely ignore them altogether while our health pays the price is heartbreaking.
It makes organisations like the Resolution Foundation sound terrifying .
When you have spent years in a system that feels like hell, hearing a powerful group treat your survival as a macro economic problem or a budget deficit is a deep, systemic insult.

our shared nationwide experience points exactly to the fatal flaw in how these think tanks operate.
They look at disability through an economic spreadsheet, completely missing the systemic failures that actually force people out of work. Their reports rarely account for employer failure, companies routinely breaking the law by failing to provide reasonable adjustments and accessible workplaces.
kids are diagnosed after years of fighting for adequate support then the diagnosis doesn’t actually come with any guidance.
The absolute collapse of local council support, leaving disabled parents and parents of disabled kids struggling at home without the basic care needed to maintain their health or keep a job.
The reality is that schools not providing cohesive support for kids with extra needs often contributes to parents being pushed out of work leading directly to severe financial distress, which in turn destroys mental and physical health and puts us in a position where claiming pip / dla for our kids’ needs is the only solution because we cannot work or sustain a full time job or a higher paid more demanding role because of the demands on us at home.
We are living the reality that these policy makers seem to wilfully ignore and just generate into ragebait headlines and soundbites.

ExpectMore · 15/10/2026 22:05

JoannCourcyIveGotThePowerNSoul · 15/10/2026 15:51

Hot on the heels on the other thread of is pip too easy to get?.

Here's an idea better wish misfortune doesnt visit your household.
A redundancy.
Illness
Accident
Death in the family
And it's all change in the blink of an eye
So to the fuckers
Be careful for what you wish on others.

In case helpful, if you’re worried about each of these scenarios, it’s possible to insure against them meaning the financial impact will be mitigated (possibly not completely) if they were to happen. It’s definitely worth considering as many are foreseeable. Eg
Redundancy = Income insurance / emergency pot in savings account
Illness = Critical Illness / income etc insurance
Accident = Various inc accidental cover (often not underwritten so available to all)
Death = Life insurance

It’s worth considering your (inc your family’s) needs in each of these circumstances and insuring appropriately to remove worry.

JustAnotherWhinger · 15/10/2026 22:06

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 21:35

Yep.
Sun pops up on m FB sometimes. Articles about how you can get PIP if you have any of "20 conditions", which are all bullshit like tennis elbow and fungal toe nails.
All posted for clicks and divisiveness.

Those articles enrage me.

My DD gets PIP for narcolepsy with cataplexy.

She also gets treatment for asthma, a frozen shoulder and acne. She has to list all medications and treatments on the form. That some journalist could use the mention of her acne - which she has to put on but does not include it in any of the needs parts - in an article of shit statistics is infuriating.

ThisZanyCoralShark · 15/10/2026 22:07

ExpectMore · 15/10/2026 22:05

In case helpful, if you’re worried about each of these scenarios, it’s possible to insure against them meaning the financial impact will be mitigated (possibly not completely) if they were to happen. It’s definitely worth considering as many are foreseeable. Eg
Redundancy = Income insurance / emergency pot in savings account
Illness = Critical Illness / income etc insurance
Accident = Various inc accidental cover (often not underwritten so available to all)
Death = Life insurance

It’s worth considering your (inc your family’s) needs in each of these circumstances and insuring appropriately to remove worry.

How do I get this insurance with disabilities that I’ve had from birth at a reasonable price? Can you recommend me a provider?

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:09

JustAnotherWhinger · 15/10/2026 22:06

Those articles enrage me.

My DD gets PIP for narcolepsy with cataplexy.

She also gets treatment for asthma, a frozen shoulder and acne. She has to list all medications and treatments on the form. That some journalist could use the mention of her acne - which she has to put on but does not include it in any of the needs parts - in an article of shit statistics is infuriating.

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Yep, you have to list all your ailments and medications.
Funny how the press and twats on MN go on about Autism, ADHD and Anxiety... all starting with A... mentioned first because it is in alphabetical order.

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 22:09

@JoannCourcyIveGotThePowerNSoul had all that happen and more. Murder in family? Suicide? Multiple family and friend deaths. Made redundant twice. Disabled. All in last eight years. And a bunch of stuff before that.
Why the hell do you think anyone concerned about spiralling numbers of people claiming pip has to have a charmed life?

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:10

TopPocketFind · 15/10/2026 22:04

Not yourr problem?

Bet you will complain when you see more homeless people or crimes being committed.

And the money that that will cost.

They do it anyway. The money goes on drink and drugs and then they commit crimes to get more.

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 22:11

ThisZanyCoralShark · 15/10/2026 22:07

How do I get this insurance with disabilities that I’ve had from birth at a reasonable price? Can you recommend me a provider?

Yeah insurance is not the solution.
But pip should be for those who are most disabled. And it simply isn't.

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:12

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:04

PIP is a payment to an individual because they are disabled. Not their household... them.

I am on PIP. So now any man should give me a hard swerve now because he will have to finance my disabilities. Thanks.

Yeah, pretty much.

Acting like your spouse having more responsibility for you than the taxpayer is somehow ‘unfair’ is laughable, sorry

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:12

Constantrunner · 15/10/2026 22:11

Yeah insurance is not the solution.
But pip should be for those who are most disabled. And it simply isn't.

Agree. This is all going to come crashing down in the next 10 years. Things are going to get really ugly when they didn’t need to.

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:13

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:12

Yeah, pretty much.

Acting like your spouse having more responsibility for you than the taxpayer is somehow ‘unfair’ is laughable, sorry

I don't have a spouse.
But I am totally and utterly on the scrap heap because I am disabled. Because any potential suitor would have to finance me 100%
But according to you, that is ok.

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 15/10/2026 22:17

XenoBitch · 15/10/2026 22:13

I don't have a spouse.
But I am totally and utterly on the scrap heap because I am disabled. Because any potential suitor would have to finance me 100%
But according to you, that is ok.

Just fund yourself. You’re an adult.

ExpectMore · 15/10/2026 22:17

CossyBunt · 15/10/2026 15:52

The disabled are easy targets, so cruel and unfair.

The Government needs to look at Universal Credit and start including child maintenance in the calculation and reverse lifting the child benefit cap. Make men pay for the children they produce, instead of expecting the tax payer to pick up the tab. I’m fed up of losers being state subsidised into producing a ridiculous amount of children.

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I think they should do away with child benefit all together, save in the admin costs and help encourage a culture of sensible fiscal family planning.

Or, implement a French style model where it is effected by way of an increase to personal allowance (from a tax perspective).

ExpectMore · 15/10/2026 22:18

OhMyGodSusan · 15/10/2026 15:52

The answer is to make state pension means tested. That would save the welfare bill.
Why do millionaires need the state pension they don't.

But why should those that have been prudent and provisioned for their retirement be penalised when those that haven’t been (as they either couldn’t be or decided to piss their money up the wall instead) aren’t?

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