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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2026 13:49

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 11:25

@CrikeyalmightyI’m just using the wrong word. What Yawn has to submit by 1 July will be quite telling even though it’s not the full picture and I’m sure she’d rather it wasn’t available to see! She has never changed her correspondence address at CH from where she lived a decade ago which suggests she is either disorganised or wants to avoid some kind of scrutiny (the registered office is with the usual accountant who have had a part in the demise of many FL bots). Hopefully Mr Yawn is doing a roaring trade in Aloe sales in the pockets of time he has outside his paid work!

Ha ha - yes indeed -

Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2026 13:52

Blimey - it may be small but it’s mighty - !! Not exactly great when the whole subject is invisibility though

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 14:31

Not a squeak out of the five publicly identified ambassadors. I would have thought the event would have warranted a mention at some point or even attendance and some selfies from the event on social media! There is no mention as far as I can see from the photographer. Why wouldn’t you be mentioning an event you were attending to increase your VISIBILITY? Perhaps I’ve missed the fanfare?

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Crwysmam · 22/06/2026 14:51

Three in the room and two on zoom. I suppose that it’s better than zero.

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 15:00

I see the new venue is her own kitchen worktop for the in person event.

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Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 15:42

It is literally three in person and three Zoom attendees! Is one of the in person ones the photographer? Where’s the woman who was due to do the breathing workshop?

Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 15:47

Confirmed - it’s 2 attendees plus the photographer

Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 15:54

And two on Zoom I think as one of them on the screen is Yawn

if she’d wanted to make visible what a failure this ‘business’ is, this has been a successful way to do it!!!

DeliaDeetz · 22/06/2026 16:06

Wow, wonder how Yawn and Techie are going to style this one out?!

I'm guessing there will be no mention of the 60 place venue that they were definitely going to sell out....

Also no sign of Mr Yawn either, probably decided it was not worth taking a days holiday, better off keeping it for one of their "date days" later in the year.

Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 16:13

I think Mr Y does not work on a Friday

unless he’s using up his annual leave on Fridays

definitelynotabot · 22/06/2026 17:01

That sounds a roaring success!
Not.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 17:17

I am utterly baffled as to why they’d not just let this go quiet. Going from 60 people at a proper venue to two (presumably) paying guests plus a couple on Zoom and then actually documenting it on socials feels like an incredible self-own.

Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2026 17:31

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 17:17

I am utterly baffled as to why they’d not just let this go quiet. Going from 60 people at a proper venue to two (presumably) paying guests plus a couple on Zoom and then actually documenting it on socials feels like an incredible self-own.

I know - wouldn’t you just come down with Covid? And say it will be ‘rearranged’

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 17:32

There is no obvious sign that the venue closed today because of the weather. I think Y&T cancelled the barn ages ago to avoid cancellation charges (if it was ever truly booked in their name) and decided to go with the “last minute” venue move. I don’t see much of the detail they post on account of my blocking but it seems like they haven’t talked about the venue much recently which you’d have thought was a selling point.

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Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 17:55

Pay 50 quid to come round to my house and sit in the kitchen and have a play with Canva

🙄

user1471446301 · 22/06/2026 18:12

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 17:32

There is no obvious sign that the venue closed today because of the weather. I think Y&T cancelled the barn ages ago to avoid cancellation charges (if it was ever truly booked in their name) and decided to go with the “last minute” venue move. I don’t see much of the detail they post on account of my blocking but it seems like they haven’t talked about the venue much recently which you’d have thought was a selling point.

I don't think she could cancel and get a refund looking at the venues T&C's (General Venue Hire: Payments are generally non-refundable as the space could have been booked by others). I bet she makes techie and the 'photographer' split this 3 ways with her. Her 2 paying customers might just about cover the cost, I hope to god they didn't have to pay 50 quid to still use the Bot potty.

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 18:53

@user1471446301 I think they could have cancelled with 30 days or more notice (with a small admin charge) so I wondered whether they did so a long time ago when it was apparent there was little interest. That might be crediting Yawn with the ability to do a reality check. She probably stuck with manifesting 60 attendees as her preferred strategy.

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PieonaBarm · 22/06/2026 19:06

Does she not see how ironic this is? So much learned about how to attract people and funnel them through your social media channels 😂

She also looks super giddy, like the Apprentice when they do the corporate away day task which they know is a disaster but people have paid so have to muster up excitement. House horse also got in on some poor woman’s branding photo where she’s sat on bench by the damp gable end of The Thatch. Ace. Sign me up hun!

Thought there were 60 places and it WOULD sell out Yawn??

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
ticktock19 · 22/06/2026 19:16

lol..I’ve just screenshot that exact statement @PieonaBarm, she’s in absolute denial and cancelled the ‘training’ tonight because her and techie are too exhausted/ upset / not speaking / no longer business partners 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

ticktock19 · 22/06/2026 19:18

I think that’s the dog walker/ subscription box lady so yawn obviously wanted the househorse on all her branding pics, she’ll probably charge her for the privilege

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 19:22

The total coaching charlatan who features here periodically (first name daughter in The Simpsons, surname same as floppy haired ex prime minister) is asking for ‘bids’ on a painting that she claims is worth $125K but is too big for her new house boo hoo. Cursory glance at the gallery who estimated it brings up some fascinating search results <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2023.05.05-173805/www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-14/ever-bought-artwork-on-a-cruise-prepare-to-be-seasick?leadSource=uverify%20wall" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2023.05.05-173805/www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-14/ever-bought-artwork-on-a-cruise-prepare-to-be-seasick?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 19:23

PieonaBarm · 22/06/2026 19:06

Does she not see how ironic this is? So much learned about how to attract people and funnel them through your social media channels 😂

She also looks super giddy, like the Apprentice when they do the corporate away day task which they know is a disaster but people have paid so have to muster up excitement. House horse also got in on some poor woman’s branding photo where she’s sat on bench by the damp gable end of The Thatch. Ace. Sign me up hun!

Thought there were 60 places and it WOULD sell out Yawn??

TWO clients on that photo. TWO!!

user1471446301 · 22/06/2026 19:42

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 18:53

@user1471446301 I think they could have cancelled with 30 days or more notice (with a small admin charge) so I wondered whether they did so a long time ago when it was apparent there was little interest. That might be crediting Yawn with the ability to do a reality check. She probably stuck with manifesting 60 attendees as her preferred strategy.

Yes I think you are correct thinking about it and cancelled a while back.

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 19:57

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 19:22

The total coaching charlatan who features here periodically (first name daughter in The Simpsons, surname same as floppy haired ex prime minister) is asking for ‘bids’ on a painting that she claims is worth $125K but is too big for her new house boo hoo. Cursory glance at the gallery who estimated it brings up some fascinating search results <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2023.05.05-173805/www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-14/ever-bought-artwork-on-a-cruise-prepare-to-be-seasick?leadSource=uverify%20wall" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2023.05.05-173805/www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-14/ever-bought-artwork-on-a-cruise-prepare-to-be-seasick?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Ha, a quick search says an original signed painting might fetch $15-18,000 and the gallery looks like it does well out of inflating valuations and telling people what they want to hear. I am amused with the idea of buying some art to go with the new Next sofa then offloading it when it doesn’t go with the decor etc. I bet Peggy Guggenheim didn’t offload her Jackson Pollocks just because she’d gone for floral curtains. But then Peggy Guggenheim wasn’t living on the never never trying to scam people as a coach while scrabbling around for money to keep up an illusion.

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user1471446301 · 22/06/2026 20:06

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 19:22

The total coaching charlatan who features here periodically (first name daughter in The Simpsons, surname same as floppy haired ex prime minister) is asking for ‘bids’ on a painting that she claims is worth $125K but is too big for her new house boo hoo. Cursory glance at the gallery who estimated it brings up some fascinating search results <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2023.05.05-173805/www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-14/ever-bought-artwork-on-a-cruise-prepare-to-be-seasick?leadSource=uverify%20wall" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2023.05.05-173805/www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-14/ever-bought-artwork-on-a-cruise-prepare-to-be-seasick?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Interestingly it's big and she's moving .... dare I say downsizing. Surely a quick google will show her and her followers her appraisal is delusional I love it when a scammer get scammed.

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