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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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user1471446301 · 20/06/2026 21:56

YouOKHun · 20/06/2026 21:39

The house she lives in is used as the registered address of the limited company (real estate syndicate) and this is up to date as it’s the address listed when the confirmation statement appeared in December 2025. Mr and Mrs Rictus are not directors of that property company and neither is her mother (who has had a lot of directorships in the past). So it seems Rictus is not being honest with her recruits about the lifestyle on offer if they sign up to FLP.

Oh most Excellent Sleuthing @YouOKHun bravo! Mrs 30K a month has to vacate her own bed to strangers regularly for the last 3 years. Wow we knew she was a con artist and liar, but this housing situation truly surpasses bot level of deception. Just when you think you've seen it all.

YouOKHun · 20/06/2026 22:25

Yep @user1471446301 that’s why they have been in their caravan every weekend in June from Friday to Monday (earning £652 for a two night minimum stay).

There were clearly a few people staying there in April so that must have been helpful for Disney.

BTW, on the list of amenities no little extra is forgotten, the host supplies soap, shower gel and shampoo. I expect the host keeps plenty of supplies in her garage.

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user1471446301 · 20/06/2026 22:53

YouOKHun · 20/06/2026 22:25

Yep @user1471446301 that’s why they have been in their caravan every weekend in June from Friday to Monday (earning £652 for a two night minimum stay).

There were clearly a few people staying there in April so that must have been helpful for Disney.

BTW, on the list of amenities no little extra is forgotten, the host supplies soap, shower gel and shampoo. I expect the host keeps plenty of supplies in her garage.

oh yes the case credit consumables will be stacked up for sure in the garage along with some well placed bot cards.

What a way to live though in a house of cards you don't even own. Before I was blocked I'm sure I saw that her mum or mil moved in opposite so that makes it easier to decamp I suppose in the winter months when caravan life isn't so appealing. I wonder if the syndicate allows Airbnb as it's almost like a sublet if it's not mortgaged by them and their insurance won't be valid.

Is there any chance pls I can have a clue to the property syndicates name I'd love to do some digging. Thank you.

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 02:00

Some duff information from me. There are two houses of the same name in the village where she lives, so she may own the house (I don’t know). The bit about Airbnb is right though!

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notgettinganyyounger · 21/06/2026 08:36

The zoom is cover for the low/non attendees of the in person afternoon.

Ie we had over 100 attendees on zoom as there is global interest in the business, so we had to find a way to include everyone.

Was there someone on here attending the zoom or watching in the carpark?

I would but im taking yawns advice and saying no without explaining why, as well as coming off social media for the week 🤣

notgettinganyyounger · 21/06/2026 08:37

Excellent work on Rictus house. Any hint as to how we can find it?

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 10:00

@notgettinganyyounger if you Google “villages in Cheshire starting with a U and then T” you should get the place. Then that place looked up on Airbnb finds it or her name and the village finds it too I think.

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Spongebobette · 21/06/2026 10:30

If will be a lot of work prepping the house, changing beds and removing all personsl items) and then cleaning and changing the beds again

and she has to pack up the caravan etc

Spongebobette · 21/06/2026 10:31

Nor really a millionaire lifestyle

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 10:50

@Spongebobetteluckily her amazing Forever Living business gives her the Time Freedom to spend time prepping for guests arriving on a Friday, packing and unpacking a caravan, emptying the chemical toilet and spending Mondays cleaning the bogs and changing the sheets in her house. It means she has Tuesday and Wednesday free every week to earn £7,500!

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Spongebobette · 21/06/2026 11:23

such an enviable lifestyle!!

Crikeyalmighty · 21/06/2026 12:27

@YouOKHun don’t know about you but I really couldn’t be arsed with that kind of lifestyle - even if it brought in good money - especially if it involved living in a caravan part of the week too

Spongebobette · 21/06/2026 13:08

absolutely! Particularly when you have a child

user1471446301 · 21/06/2026 14:57

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 02:00

Some duff information from me. There are two houses of the same name in the village where she lives, so she may own the house (I don’t know). The bit about Airbnb is right though!

Easy mistake to make, I was just re reading the blurb "The garage is also unavailable" so yes it's stacked with gloop! I just can't get my head around (unless of course needs must) leaving your home every weekend and all the work that entails. My biggest surprise is that her daughters room is available that is alot of upheaval and sharing of private space for a child to deal with.

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 15:09

They also have to vacate at Christmas. The blurb says, ‘at Christmas the house will be decorated’. Imagine having to leave your house at that time. Presumably they have one caravan for them and a separate four berth caravan to house the sickening quantity of presents they give their DD.

@Crikeyalmighty I spent enough of my childhood precariously pitched in some field on a rainy Devon hill farm to know it’s not for me. However, I didn’t enjoy the orange and brown Dralon luxury of a 1969 Spite Musketeer because my parents made me sleep in the awning with three Spaniels Confused

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Spongebobette · 21/06/2026 19:42

notgettinganyyounger · 21/06/2026 08:36

The zoom is cover for the low/non attendees of the in person afternoon.

Ie we had over 100 attendees on zoom as there is global interest in the business, so we had to find a way to include everyone.

Was there someone on here attending the zoom or watching in the carpark?

I would but im taking yawns advice and saying no without explaining why, as well as coming off social media for the week 🤣

As we are about to enter a heatwave. I think some events might get cancelled or go online

just saying

user1471446301 · 21/06/2026 19:44

Spongebobette · 21/06/2026 19:42

As we are about to enter a heatwave. I think some events might get cancelled or go online

just saying

I think you're right on the money! it's a great get out.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 21/06/2026 20:34

That is incredible sleuthing botwatchers!!
Makes the ridiculously OTT spoiling of the daughter make sense - poor kid can’t even have her own decorated bedroom and strangers sleep in her bed. Awful.

benten54 · 21/06/2026 20:47

“Only 60 spaces available. This will sell out”.

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 22:12

@Spongebobette I think you’re right. The heatwave is the perfect diversion. If only the heatwave could last a week and HMRC could declare that it’s too hot to read the very depressing accounts so not to bother submitting them unless they’re good news. That would then be two of the most embarrassing moments of truth managed away.

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SnoogyWoo · 22/06/2026 07:45
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It’s visibility and branding day…

Spongebobette · 22/06/2026 07:55

Yawn’s applied a fresh layer of fake tan and is excited so I’m sure everything will go well

interestingly she says no one from her local area is attending

Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2026 11:06

YouOKHun · 21/06/2026 22:12

@Spongebobette I think you’re right. The heatwave is the perfect diversion. If only the heatwave could last a week and HMRC could declare that it’s too hot to read the very depressing accounts so not to bother submitting them unless they’re good news. That would then be two of the most embarrassing moments of truth managed away.

I don’t think you can read the company accounts to HMRC - just the annual companies house filing - which is often not the same thing at all although does give you a good snapshot - I’ve got a company and pretty sure others can’t see my my actual HMRC filing - ?

YouOKHun · 22/06/2026 11:25

@CrikeyalmightyI’m just using the wrong word. What Yawn has to submit by 1 July will be quite telling even though it’s not the full picture and I’m sure she’d rather it wasn’t available to see! She has never changed her correspondence address at CH from where she lived a decade ago which suggests she is either disorganised or wants to avoid some kind of scrutiny (the registered office is with the usual accountant who have had a part in the demise of many FL bots). Hopefully Mr Yawn is doing a roaring trade in Aloe sales in the pockets of time he has outside his paid work!

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Crwysmam · 22/06/2026 13:45

Well having just checked Yawn’s social media it appears that the invisibility day has had to relocate. I was considering a shopping trip this afternoon but it is super hot in Yawnsville today and I’m currently relaxing in an air conditioned room having spent the morning de furring the house ( dog is in full moult, she is a perfect weather predictor shedding her full coat in prep for the heat wave).
From the photos it looks like she is expecting at least 4 people. A long way short of the 40 places they planned for. She has provided refreshments though. I do hope that she is not planning to use the portal in this weather though.

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