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Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

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Crystalovertherainbow · 01/02/2026 20:52

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

OP posts:
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:48

Playingvideogames · 02/02/2026 16:42

Let me tell you about a pattern I see time, and time, and time again at work (where people explain their financial circumstances and background history on a regular basis).

18 year old leaves school
They might work for a bit - usually something part time, or low paid. They’re still living at home.
They get fired or quit.
They sign on benefits.
They’re still at home so it’s £350 a month to doss about with.
They spend it on takeaways, vapes, weed, alcohol, whatever.
They spend months abusing the above, lying in bed and having no proper routine.
They become lazy, addicted and entitled.
After a few years they’re basically unemployable and the path to addling their brains has started.
A few years after that they get diagnosed with a ton of MH and addiction related conditions, because they haven’t done a single healthy ir productive thing in years.
They claim PIP, and then try to claim carer’s for each other (if in a relationship at that point).
They have kids, more benefits.
Kids get SEN diagnosis - DLA
They’re quids in. And they’ve never worked.

What would’ve happened had we never gave them benefits to start with?

They would have died or gone into prostitution and still ended up addicted and addled. People cannot live on fresh air.

Where are the jobs for 18yo school leavers? That's the question that you, in your rush to victim-blame, do not ask.

Kids get SEN diagnosis.

Do you have any idea how hard it is even to get your kid assessed?

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:49

Playingvideogames · 02/02/2026 16:47

I didn’t say all people. But a significant minority/majority are.

According to you. Thankfully not everyone agrees

Playingvideogames · 02/02/2026 16:49

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:48

They would have died or gone into prostitution and still ended up addicted and addled. People cannot live on fresh air.

Where are the jobs for 18yo school leavers? That's the question that you, in your rush to victim-blame, do not ask.

Kids get SEN diagnosis.

Do you have any idea how hard it is even to get your kid assessed?

They would’ve been less fussy and taken whatever work was available. They would’ve avoided addiction, stayed busy and learned to provide for themselves.

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:49

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:41

It's ok for disabled young people to claim benefits but not able bodied ones - why don't we just bring back national service and be done with it eh. Or have folk sweep the streets?

Some poorer families need that extra income. How many times does this need to be said?

why don't we just bring back national service and be done with it eh. Or have folk sweep the streets?

Sensible suggestions for once. (Taking it at face value)

scottishgirl69 have you claimed benefits?

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:51

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:49

why don't we just bring back national service and be done with it eh. Or have folk sweep the streets?

Sensible suggestions for once. (Taking it at face value)

scottishgirl69 have you claimed benefits?

Sorry. I said earlier in the thread that I'm on disability benefits for a short period of time because of an accident that left me hospitalised. I really don't need to explain myself to you any further on any level

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:52

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:51

Sorry. I said earlier in the thread that I'm on disability benefits for a short period of time because of an accident that left me hospitalised. I really don't need to explain myself to you any further on any level

Explains why you support freebies though.

PoliteSquid · 02/02/2026 16:53

SirChenjins · 01/02/2026 21:48

No it's not - college is where you do SVQs, HNCs, HNDs etc etc

And after 18 all of that needs paying for… Education isn’t free forever!
Some employers might pay as part of an apprenticeship but apprenticeships are wildly competitive.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:55

Playingvideogames · 02/02/2026 16:49

They would’ve been less fussy and taken whatever work was available. They would’ve avoided addiction, stayed busy and learned to provide for themselves.

18 year olds don't get 350 pounds a month UC. They get 316. You do understand that when someone is in the all work group on UC they don't just get sitting around doing nothing. They have to evidence that they job seeking for 35 hours a week or face being sanctioned. Total la la land stuff here. You clearly know nothing about addiction either and how people feed a habit on or off benefits (qualified addiction worker speaking).

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:56

scottishgirl69 Sorry to hear about your accident. Surely you should have compensation for the accident. Insurance?

Wouldn't that have helped your temporary situation more than benefits?

PoliteSquid · 02/02/2026 16:57

Playingvideogames · 02/02/2026 16:49

They would’ve been less fussy and taken whatever work was available. They would’ve avoided addiction, stayed busy and learned to provide for themselves.

The point that has been made many many times on this thread is that jobs are extremely hard to come by!!

I worked on a supermarket checkout, along with about 15-20 other people. I can’t remember the last time I saw that many staffed checkouts.

Needmorelego · 02/02/2026 16:58

@Playingvideogames but to "earn" that £300 they should be out job seeking, attending interviews, job fairs, training groups for CV writing or interview skills.
If the Job Centres aren't insisting on that then that's part of the issue.
It's not supposed to be £300 to sit around doing nothing. So why does it happen?

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:59

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:56

scottishgirl69 Sorry to hear about your accident. Surely you should have compensation for the accident. Insurance?

Wouldn't that have helped your temporary situation more than benefits?

Edited

No. I broke my leg at home - insurance isn't going to cover that.

Minnie798 · 02/02/2026 17:02

To actually answer the question you asked, some 18 year olds will claim uc if they havent been able to secure employment.
Parental income is not taken into account and uc is a very low amount of around £300 a month. Enough to pay for their transport costs (to enable them to attend further job interviews) and for other essential items. I imagine some 18 year olds will also use it to pay for driving lessons. In the real world, outside of mn privilege of course.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 17:04

Bromptotoo · 02/02/2026 16:33

Not just an 18yo.

There's a whole strata out there just getting by and just a few missed shifts or a period on SSP from being unable to pay the rent.

Those of us with salaries that are the same every month have no idea.

I am on a monthly salary now, but I can remember not being able to afford to eat sometimes. There is very little more frightening, and yet it still doesn't have this magical effect of making a/another job appear out of nowhere.

Needmorelego · 02/02/2026 17:04

If streets need sweeping (as suggested up thread) why isn't it available as an actual job.
If councils employed someone to clean the streets then that person wouldn't need UC.... because they will have a job 😂

BringBackCatsEyes · 02/02/2026 17:05

PoliteSquid · 02/02/2026 16:57

The point that has been made many many times on this thread is that jobs are extremely hard to come by!!

I worked on a supermarket checkout, along with about 15-20 other people. I can’t remember the last time I saw that many staffed checkouts.

Agree. I was in the city on Saturday afternoon shopping with my teenage son. All the high street fashion stores had one maybe 2 tills open and queues 15 mins long. They just aren’t employing so many staff.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:06

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:52

Explains why you support freebies though.

Does it now. Would you want to fall and snap your fibula. Tibia and medial - smash your leg so badly you can't walk for months. Have to have your leg pinned back together? Have a ten inch plate in your left leg and two screws in your ankle. I effectively snapped my ankle - I was told if I didn't have the operation I would have arthritis.

Sure. I really wanted to have that happen to me for an extra 400 quid a month. That's correct.

I actually didn't get extra money for breaking my leg initially. I had to go to tribunal and my lcwra award is just about to run out. I also had a job offer just before I broke it. I would much rather not have had that accident and have been able to take that job offer up.

Your posts are completely offensive - and uncalled for. Abelist to boot

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 17:06

Playingvideogames · 02/02/2026 16:49

They would’ve been less fussy and taken whatever work was available. They would’ve avoided addiction, stayed busy and learned to provide for themselves.

I refer you to my last post about not being able to afford food.

It was actually safer on benefits because I wasn't a cancelled shift away from going hungry on benefits. I was working two jobs at the time, one was zero hours.

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 02/02/2026 17:08

Needmorelego · 02/02/2026 16:33

If the partner doesn't earn enough for the family to live then she would be expected to be also working or seeking work.
At least I believe that's correct.
Or presumably every SAHP would be claiming UC 🤷

Edited

You are correct. But IME, and speaking to others that I know, they aren't overly strict on this. If you attend a job fair and get the little slip of paper to say you attended, that counts as your whole weeks search. Even if you only stay 10mins. Even if someone else goes for you.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:08

Oh and by the way. Im in my 50s. I paid taxes for decades. I don't need someone telling me that I support "freebies" when I have paid plenty into the system.

LunaDeBallona · 02/02/2026 17:08

Unsurprisingly I’m still waiting for @arethereanyleftatall to make contact to let me know how my 18 year old daughter can get a job because “Let’s face it. An 18 year old can get a job”

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 17:16

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 16:49

why don't we just bring back national service and be done with it eh. Or have folk sweep the streets?

Sensible suggestions for once. (Taking it at face value)

scottishgirl69 have you claimed benefits?

Some US states tried "workfare". It hasn't worked very well.

If a job needs doing, it should be an actual job for wages. UC is not wages.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:17

Minnie798 · 02/02/2026 17:02

To actually answer the question you asked, some 18 year olds will claim uc if they havent been able to secure employment.
Parental income is not taken into account and uc is a very low amount of around £300 a month. Enough to pay for their transport costs (to enable them to attend further job interviews) and for other essential items. I imagine some 18 year olds will also use it to pay for driving lessons. In the real world, outside of mn privilege of course.

I'm honestly stunned at this thread. The job centre can actually help young people with training. I have my SIA badge although I've not worked in the industry myself for a while. I got mine paid for by the Scottish govt because they have a scheme called ILA. I think the name has changed now. If you were earning under 22k a year you got 200 pounds towards a training course.

But the job centre can also fund SIA badges particularly for young people. They can help with interview skills. They can help with funds for interview clothes. Why shouldn't young people who are entitled to claim UC claim it and get support into training or get something paid for that will help support them into work? It's not just about people sitting on their backside taking in 300 quid a month - it's about getting support to get a job.

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 17:20

LunaDeBallona · 02/02/2026 17:08

Unsurprisingly I’m still waiting for @arethereanyleftatall to make contact to let me know how my 18 year old daughter can get a job because “Let’s face it. An 18 year old can get a job”

Are you the poster upthread who claimed 18year olds couldn’t possibly be babysitters and then another rant a few posts on about all the money going to immigrants? If so, I couldn’t be arsed to respond, it wasn’t worth my time.

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 17:20

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:41

Oh. An "all tax is theft" libertarian. I should have guessed.

I hope you don't use any of the roads my taxes paid for to get to and from work. You would be a massive hypocrite if you did.

I used to be an extreme libertarian and then I toned myself down. But I still agree that it's taken at threat of violence. I also pay taxes for the roads. Roads can exist work without government.

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