Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

[Crystalovertherainbow]

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

I find the idea of an able bodied school leaver immediately signing on benefits to be disgraceful. It really shouldn’t be allowed.

Bit more complicated I think.

Earnings thresholds have been raised significantly in recent years but until recently it was possible to be on light touch one one set of wages.

I can program in five languages and work with computers in three operating systems connected to laboratory equipment for my job.

You don't even understand the difference between the fibre outside the house and the wifi inside it. Wifi connected to ADSL can be little better than dialup if you are a long way from the exchange. Generally, places with crap ADSL are also mobile deadzones. Ask me how I know this...

You will not get a computer capable of a business workload for £100.

Just because they are "able bodied" doesn't mean they don't have to eat and pay bills.
The whole point of this thread is for 18 year olds who haven't found employment.
Able bodied makes no difference.

Oh yawn. We can’t be a country of high unemployment and benefit claiming propped up by a couple of highly taxed billionaires. This is so boring now

Why shouldn't it be allowed. It's been allowed for decades. It only seems to provoke outrage now the Internet is here. People have every right to claim UC on leaving school until they find a job

And me. My kids already had “part time jobs” and just increased their hours until they got more “career” jobs.

Living off of the taxpayer wasn’t an option - they’d never paid in anything, no reason they should get out. 🤷‍♀️

Same as you - yawn.

Why not? They have bills to pay, clothes needed, (hopefully) interviews to travel to....

Oh. An "all tax is theft" libertarian. I should have guessed.

I hope you don't use any of the roads my taxes paid for to get to and from work. You would be a massive hypocrite if you did.

It's ok for disabled young people to claim benefits but not able bodied ones - why don't we just bring back national service and be done with it eh. Or have folk sweep the streets?

Some poorer families need that extra income. How many times does this need to be said?

Let me tell you about a pattern I see time, and time, and time again at work (where people explain their financial circumstances and background history on a regular basis).

18 year old leaves school
They might work for a bit - usually something part time, or low paid. They’re still living at home.
They get fired or quit.
They sign on benefits.
They’re still at home so it’s £350 a month to doss about with.
They spend it on takeaways, vapes, weed, alcohol, whatever.
They spend months abusing the above, lying in bed and having no proper routine.
They become lazy, addicted and entitled.
After a few years they’re basically unemployable and the path to addling their brains has started.
A few years after that they get diagnosed with a ton of MH and addiction related conditions, because they haven’t done a single healthy ir productive thing in years.
They claim PIP, and then try to claim carer’s for each other (if in a relationship at that point).
They have kids, more benefits.
Kids get SEN diagnosis - DLA
They’re quids in. And they’ve never worked.

What would’ve happened had we never gave them benefits to start with?

‘Why not make people work for their money!’ You said hysterically, like it’s not… just basic logic and not at all a human rights infringement

Land value tax is the only fair tax. And the rich can't dodge it, because land cannot be taken overseas.

Some people aren't in that position at 18. They don't have a part time job - are people supposed to claim nothing just because they haven't paid taxes yet?

Why should people have to pay tax on their already taxed land to pay for the feckless and lazy?

I actually really pity you with those views - seriously.

Yes.

Pity me all you like, I don’t care

And there we have it. You think all people on benefits are feckless and lazy - bingo!

I do pity you. I would pity anyone who thinks all people who claim benefits are feckless

You do realise there isn't a big pot of money sitting around full of unclaimed benefits. There is however a massive national debt that currently costs tax payers £121billion pounds a year just to pay the interest on. That amount gets keeps getting bigger every year.

To put it into context, overseas aid is about £7billion. The welfare bill is around £260 billion, or £350 billion if you include state pensions. That is before we get started on the NHS.

Meanwhile, the number of billionaires living in the country is steadily declining.

I didn’t say all people. But a significant minority/majority are.

Thanks for the stats

They live in fantasyland. I admire your efforts but they’ll just trot out about ‘billionaires’