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Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

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Crystalovertherainbow · 01/02/2026 20:52

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

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JenniferBooth · 02/02/2026 16:00

Caterpillar1 · 02/02/2026 15:35

Qualify to do care work?
I know many, many people who had no qualification in care work but came here in the 2000s from Eastern Europe to do exactly this and many other jobs that the local young people (and judging from this thread - their parents as well) think are beneath them. They were determined to earn money and not afraid of hard work in order to achieve that. And who do you think does all the fruit picking in the UK? Young Brits? Naaah... that's beneath them, surely, as well, or maybe they are not qualified, right? BTW you can earn good money doing fruit picking, but you've got to work hard, and all the 3 care homes near me are looking for workers offering the living wage.

Or its against the SH tenancy agreement to live away See my post at fifteen zero six

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:01

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 14:00

Each of our DC have their own laptops. If one breaks then we get a new one. They tend to keep theirs in good condition.

I work with people who cannot afford a laptop for each child.

itsgettingweird · 02/02/2026 16:04

Not all.

my ds didn’t immediately claim and had a job after college however after 4 years got made redundant so claimed job seekers.

Because he’s disabled he’s been told to get a fit note and they are doing a fitness to work assessment.

That’s because you need to be spending FT work hours applying and updating your skills etc and take any suitable role. My ds as a wheelchair user cannot just do anything!

So job centre set him realistic targets and put him on UC (same money as job seekers).

He applies for all jobs he can do and is self updating his skill set (computer development and cyber security) to add to his skills as he was working in software development before his was made redundant.

For me I think it depends. Yes, you can claim. Back when I got jobs after college there was much more available and you could do anything and so it was only ever a few weeks between roles but if that’s not the case for a college leaver then they do need some income inbetween.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:05

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 14:15

Aren't entry requirements extremely low at some unis?

University of Westminster computer science is CCC

Yeah, but degrees from "lesser universities" don't always translate into jobs.

I didn't even have CCC, which is one of the reasons I cleaned loos/drove checkouts/etc for a while.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:09

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 14:23

Historically, parents expected their children to go out to work and support themselves. It shouldn't be any different now., whether you are a low or high income family. Parents need to instil accountability into their children.

There are zero hour contracts, seasonal wirk avaliable. Not ideal but better than no job. In time they can move onto better jobs with experience and perseverance.

Tell me that you've never had your zero hour contract shift cancelled after you boarded the bus and paid the bus fare without telling me...

The combination of poor transport and precarity makes zero hours contracts worse than dole, unless you can walk or cycle there.

HostaCentral · 02/02/2026 16:10

I don't think anyone on this thread has an issue with it, IF NEEDED. But there seem to be an awful lot of posters on here, high income, nice lives, who are encouraging their 18 year olds to claim. Either they are lying or rage baiting, or are just shit parents. Who knows.

I can and would support my children in my home (or in theirs) if needed until the day I die. Just because they magically become adults at 18, doesn't mean my responsibility to them has ceased. During Covid DD1 came back home. I did not charge her rent or living expenses, she just became part of family unit again. If grown up children need help financially or physically, you help them, you don't encourage them to go to the state for help...... IF YOU CAN. I put that in capitals, because this only relates to families you can support their children, not those who are not in a position to do so.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:14

Antiquerosegold · 02/02/2026 14:39

Alot of people have periods between jobs.
Benefits wouldn't be claimed as they didn't want the stigma or shame. That has been eroded.

Understandably non benefit claimants are anti benefit claimants. Biggest divide in society. Tells you everything you need to know about someones character.

FFS in the 90s my mum claimed benefits between jobs. She had no choice, she had two kids to feed.

Fizbosshoes · 02/02/2026 16:14

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:09

Tell me that you've never had your zero hour contract shift cancelled after you boarded the bus and paid the bus fare without telling me...

The combination of poor transport and precarity makes zero hours contracts worse than dole, unless you can walk or cycle there.

DD has a zero hours contract. They messaged to offer a shift at 6am , one day last week. It started at 8am.DD would have taken the shift if she'd known beforehand, but she got up at 8am so thats when she saw the message....

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:16

HostaCentral · 02/02/2026 16:10

I don't think anyone on this thread has an issue with it, IF NEEDED. But there seem to be an awful lot of posters on here, high income, nice lives, who are encouraging their 18 year olds to claim. Either they are lying or rage baiting, or are just shit parents. Who knows.

I can and would support my children in my home (or in theirs) if needed until the day I die. Just because they magically become adults at 18, doesn't mean my responsibility to them has ceased. During Covid DD1 came back home. I did not charge her rent or living expenses, she just became part of family unit again. If grown up children need help financially or physically, you help them, you don't encourage them to go to the state for help...... IF YOU CAN. I put that in capitals, because this only relates to families you can support their children, not those who are not in a position to do so.

Are you sure that no one has an issue with it if needed?

Read Antiquerosegold's post of 14:39. She clearly has an issue with claiming benefits when needed.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:19

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 02/02/2026 14:49

And there’s the issue, working in the care sector is deemed not good enough and not suited for some unemployed people. God forbid that someone who needs money to live off might have to get a job they don’t want to do when they can just rely on benefits. I must get back to work to support those who are selective!

Do you really want someone who is autistic and "shuts down" when overwhelmed trying to care for someone with dementia?

Yet I do analytical work beautifully.

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 16:22

The main thing is personal responsibility.

You should be responsible for your own life and not rely on the taxpayer and the state. Taxation is implicitly taken under force and threat of state violence.

JenniferBooth · 02/02/2026 16:24

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:19

Do you really want someone who is autistic and "shuts down" when overwhelmed trying to care for someone with dementia?

Yet I do analytical work beautifully.

I was seventeen in nineteen ninety when i was working in a nursing home I had to help an elderly lady with schizophrenia back to bed. Her behaviour was unpredictable but i managed to get her back to bed. Im guessing rules have probably changed by now and qualifications are required to care for someone with this condition.

socks1107 · 02/02/2026 16:24

No mine have jobs since they were 16 and I'm shocked at the number of 18 year olds that do claim. I have a few friends whose children have done this. Is it because it’s ‘easy’ and we are creating a much bigger issue in years to come or is that there are no jobs? Have my two got lucky to have a Saturday job round uni and the other a post grad job in her degree field a month after graduating. I wander what the official data is on this

Dgll · 02/02/2026 16:25

marcyhermit · 01/02/2026 21:31

Not all families can afford to financially support adults.

The country can't afford it either.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:26

JenniferBooth · 02/02/2026 16:00

Or its against the SH tenancy agreement to live away See my post at fifteen zero six

There's nowhere near me that employs people to fruit pick. There are a few market gardens that employ staff - but that's about it and several of them are really hard to get to if you don't drive.

I live in a town full of supermarkets and pubs. There are care homes but there's not much else in the way of employment here apart from hairdressers and small local shops and gyms. It's much different living in a town where around 30k people live in it than much larger cities. I have worked near my home once in my life - I have had to do long commutes to other jobs

JenniferBooth · 02/02/2026 16:26

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 16:22

The main thing is personal responsibility.

You should be responsible for your own life and not rely on the taxpayer and the state. Taxation is implicitly taken under force and threat of state violence.

Except i took that personal responsibility and didnt have kids that i couldnt afford yet NOW women are getting moaned at because the birth rate has dropped. Make your minds up

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:26

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 15:01

I agree with what you said here. Benefits should be a last resort and should be time limited till you are back on your feet. And if someone is going to turn 18 and they aren't going on the academic path, that means job preparation should have started multiple months in advance.

I understand about temporary benefits when made redundant, but don't most people have an emergency fund that lasts a bit? I know some people on here say they have income protection insurance or something like that as well.

You are on another planet.

Where does an 18 year old get an emergency fund from?

One of the "great" things I discovered about being disabled is that "income protection insurance" and "life insurance" don't exist for me. The technical term is "the provider refused to quote".

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:27

Dgll · 02/02/2026 16:25

The country can't afford it either.

Of course they can. Millions of pounds of benefits go unclaimed every year. If the government taxed the super wealthy then there would be less of an issue. If the UK government can fund wars and sent billions overseas they can fund the benefits bill

Bromptotoo · 02/02/2026 16:29

Needmorelego · 02/02/2026 14:59

Unless there's a disability with one of her children all she will be entitled to is Child Benefit.
She won't be able to be claiming UC.

I don't think that's right. Will depend on what partner earns.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:29

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 15:19

Tutoring maths and English for primary.

Because unqualified, unDBS-checked, uninsured people can absolutely do that work. 🙄

Megifer · 02/02/2026 16:31

If my DS hasnt managed to get a job by then the first thing ill be telling him to sort is a UC claim on his 18th. Id see it as no different to child benefit - I don't particularly need that but im entitled to claim it so I do. Obviously id prefer he was employed. Hes applied for 100+ already though and no joy 😔

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:31

18 year olds with an emergency fund. Heard it all now. Maybe if you are a Royal or someone with a trust fund. This is hilarious actually.

When I was 18 most of my pals were working in Scotmid or other similar supermarkets. Their wages covered nights out and not a lot else. Where does an 18 year old who is still at school and working part time build up an emergency fund?

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 16:32

Megifer · 02/02/2026 16:31

If my DS hasnt managed to get a job by then the first thing ill be telling him to sort is a UC claim on his 18th. Id see it as no different to child benefit - I don't particularly need that but im entitled to claim it so I do. Obviously id prefer he was employed. Hes applied for 100+ already though and no joy 😔

No reason why he shouldn't claim

Bromptotoo · 02/02/2026 16:33

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 16:26

You are on another planet.

Where does an 18 year old get an emergency fund from?

One of the "great" things I discovered about being disabled is that "income protection insurance" and "life insurance" don't exist for me. The technical term is "the provider refused to quote".

Not just an 18yo.

There's a whole strata out there just getting by and just a few missed shifts or a period on SSP from being unable to pay the rent.

Those of us with salaries that are the same every month have no idea.

Needmorelego · 02/02/2026 16:33

Bromptotoo · 02/02/2026 16:29

I don't think that's right. Will depend on what partner earns.

If the partner doesn't earn enough for the family to live then she would be expected to be also working or seeking work.
At least I believe that's correct.
Or presumably every SAHP would be claiming UC 🤷

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