Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

Yawn's advice today is not to wait until something's perfect before selling it ....sell the idea, get the people in and then you go and make it.

I wonder if any of her "customers/followers/victims" realise that they've signed up for something that doesn't exist yet (yet again!) ...although I doubt they'd recognise a red flag if it walked across a stage with a sash on declaring it a red flag.

Well that’s what I always look for when buying goods and services - a half- arsed idea presented on Canva with lots of self praise by the person who thought it up 10 minutes ago!

@dickiedavisthunderthighs just had a look at the white label Live. That is really shifty. I reckon that’s done so that the charity isn’t alerted and is happy to share his posts. This gets him to a wider audience of potential recruits with no questions asked. I bet if challenged, after telling whoever challenged him to BE KIND he would then claim he obscured the brand because he’s all about charity and he isn’t trying to promote FL. The deception is still the same and the diversion of a donation is still the same. In fact the deception feels greater with the hiding of the FLP label. Could it have been a request from the charity or even HQ? Possible I suppose but more than likely a self-serving decision.

He shares a letter from the fundraising person at the organisation he is supporting which endorses his activities. On the face of it I’m sure it seems a generous gesture but charities need to see this kind of thing as a diversion of funds away from them. They’re missing out on money in their hand and gift aid too if buying a care pack replaces direct donation, which could easily be the case given he has reasonably big local audience and his congregation, and a certain sympathy for his current plight. All of which might divert attention away from the organisation itself. Then there is the issue of the people donating, unaware they’re part of boosting his income.

I think it's also very dangerous and probably illegal to be supplying cosmetic items to already vulnerable people without their labels detailing the ingredients (allergy risk) and directions for use. Vegans will not want to have any products containing beeswax (aloe lips) and honey (hand sanitizer).

@user1471446301 I’m assuming the obscuring of the brand in his care pack Live is to either reassure the charity that it’s not a promotional exercise (if he’s done this for a few years I wonder if the charity received some push-back in the past?). Or possibly the reason is to ensure the charity and those associated with the charity remain unaware that an MLM is involved. I’m assuming that the brand and packaging is visible once it’s handed to people, it’s just obscured on social media.

ah I presumed he was handing them out without packaging. I know in his previous years bags FL Branding was visible so the charity has been aware or at least the person who dealt with him previously. My feeling is that it's him who is being deceptive. The whole thing is just a con, lhe is ower than a snakes belly.

Distinct lack of critical thinking skills from Yawn. A quick look at the names and even they way they look (tanned and healthy 😅) makes it easy for most people to know its not a UK cast. Unless she thinks she is being clever by using that to boost her engagement, it worked but is an own goal - makes you look thick!

Yawn is LITERALLY talking about a money tree (tree of abundance) in her ‘guided meditation’

‘Release scarcity thoughts’

‘Raise your energetic frequency’

ridiculous woman

A woman I know who is - luckily for her - extremely rich from her own talent, bought into this coaching thing. She spent thousands and thousands training to be a coach and spouted all the gold dust she had learned from her coach's yooneek insights and expertise. It was common sense strategic thinking that has been around since... I was going to say 1930s when self-help books first emerged, but actually the Ancient Greeks loved all that self-help stuff so its been around since then.

So yawn is now copying castle.

castle has abandoned her new office built by daddy castle to rent an office space in the midlands🤣.

Castle, the business expert, also doesn’t seem to understand the difference between revenue and turnover.

Whaaaat???

why on earth is she doing that?

she’s so restless and never satisfied

Is there a link to the previously mentioned SUPER MEGA NOMINATE YOURSELF AWARD CEREMONY please?

difficult to give a link, but if you type it into Instagram it'll pop up

Thank you!

I was hoping we might have seen a set of Boring accounts by now …

There's a travel MLM hun loose on Mumsnet. Enjoy the bot bingo!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/work/5434660-career-change-travel-agent

The Boring Names' accounts were due yesterday for both the FL business and the property business. Nothing filed so far.
I had started feeling a bit sorry for them and then I had a look at Mrs BN's TikTok account. She'd positioned herself as someone who specialised in joint pain, with an oblique website address to match. The complete lies; they deserve everything they get.

Zero sympathy from me. They knew exactly what they were doing

Mrs Boring is still commenting on people’s posts on LinkedIn, treating it like Facebook. So even though she has clearly been told not to post on LinkedIn, FB and Insta she is keeping her hand in.

I have zero sympathy for them. She has spent a long time selling herself as successful in NWM when the truth is she was just another bot who couldn’t make it work until she travelled up the pyramid thanks to marrying a top bot. They must have known the writing was on the wall for them some time ago yet up until June they were pushing the fiction of life changing incomes and time freedom. I know of one person (told to me by a very concerned friend of hers) who has been taken in by them in the last 18 months and her involvement in FLP has wrecked her relationship (two children involved) and her career.

They don’t deserve an ounce of sympathy. And yes, the TikTok stuff is terrible. There isn’t anything she won’t lie about, pair of greedy sharks.

I guess their accounts won’t appear and we will have to wait to see if they pop up on the Government website on some register. I’m intrigued by other companies in her name which were mentioned upthread as I can’t find any. I hope they have no safety net.

lol another hilarious offering from Yawn and her friend, a speeded up version of a video of them doing physical jerks in front of a closed curtain

they look like absolute amateurs and of course have a full face of makeup on because that’s what you do before exercise isn’t it 🤣

I haven’t seen that video @Spongebobette but I can’t help humming the Benny Hill Show theme to myself all the same!

@Spongebobette I’m baffled why they think this isa money spinner - there’s any amount of good free stuff out there by experts in fitness catering to women - now if they were doing it in the buff and using only fans catering to seedy chaps- probably money to be made there!!

“Early research suggests that when more regions of the brain are engaged at once, it may support deeper, more integrated processing - which could be a key part of creating meaningful, lasting change. While everyone's experience is unique, this study offers early scientific insight into how BC®️ may work on a deeper neurological level - potentially offering powerful support for those seeking transformation. How AMAZING IS THAT??”

Apprentice Bot obviously must have seen a slow down in victims enticed into BC with promises of cure or transformation because she has returned to reiterating bogus research and favourable BC outcomes in the last few days. Perhaps she thinks the coast is now clear?

She can’t sell the income lies if no one is being brought into the scam by the bogus method’s original health and research claims which appeal to the most vulnerable.

@Crikeyalmighty I think Yawn believes the early noise and uptick in short-lived mild interest equates to “potential” for every new “brand” launch. I don’t think she does much thinking, it’s all blind hope at this stage. It’s pathetic really. And baffling that they think it’s remotely convincing.