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Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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Spongebobette · 15/10/2025 11:49

New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

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YouOKHun · 09/11/2025 00:28

@BasicBrumble coaching is the perfect product for pyramiddy selling. It offers lots of promises while being nicely vague about what it is. It often mutates into dodgy therapy because the temptation to recruit among people struggling in some way is just too great. Add in some extra noise such as pick and mix spirituality, witchcraft, assorted Woo, then tell everyone your life has been transformed and by following they too can have a millionaire lifestyle/spiritual enlightenment/the perfect family/the secret to eternal happiness/a cupboard full of Michael Kors handbags, all for £997 reduced from what it’s really worth; £9999997. And if it doesn’t work for you? Well, just the same old gaslighting; you were closed minded, negative, listened to trolls, didn’t do what you were told. Just like a cult, no one risks speaking up and those that even question get isolated.

The person you know has probably sold zero art work but if she can create a following of people who have left their critical thinking skills at the door she may be able to monetise those followers by creating “a system” and training, coaching, sharing ‘the system” to others and so on. This is what Belief Coding has done. She will attract others offering a similar shaky proposition and then they will all participate in a circle jerk - full of false positivity and coaching each other. It’s a culty grift alright and one that more and more previously temporarily successful MLM bots are turning to.

Crikeyalmighty · 09/11/2025 01:15

YouOKHun · 08/11/2025 23:56

But would the Borings even notice Yawn holding out her bot potty? Since she launched the great Invisibility Game Plan absolutely no one seems to be able to see her or hear her and even her Mum has stopped looking at her social media.

Don’t worry about the Borings @HotAsSatansBalls , they may be living in much more humble circumstances but at least there is no tape over the loo seat of their rented caravan’s Port-a-Potty. The downside is it needs emptying regularly and they are used to having a downline to tip it over.

The hilarious thing is her mum is constantly promoting slimming world!!

YouOKHun · 09/11/2025 16:36

Do you doubt your ability to lead, sell, or show up online ? Do you feel like an imposter ? "Who am I to charge that much?" Do you struggle to be visible because you worry you're "too much" or "not enough?" Do you compare themselves to others and feel behind ?
If you've answered yes to any of the above - I know I can help you, as l've been there before & worked myself out of it.

You can tell what Yawn’s current worries are can’t you? Despite her saying she has worked herself out of it she seems to be very much in the thick of these worries. She has clearly copied and pasted this and done a bad job of altering it.

I’m sure there is a bit more interaction on her other FB page but her business page is stone cold dead. I suppose she doesn’t want to call it a day because there will be some very unpleasant final calculations for her limited company but it’s just excruciating watching her flailing around trapped by her own delusions, lack of planning and need for attention.

Spongebobette · 09/11/2025 19:45

But she’s ’opening up spaces’ to work with her in 2026 so that sounds like a great success

especially as she runs ‘multiple successful businesses’

😂😂😂😂😂

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Crikeyalmighty · 09/11/2025 20:33

@Spongebobette yes the multiple successful business had me chortling - the delusion is high here!!

DeliaDeetz · 09/11/2025 21:27

Yawn and her fitness pal have launched yet another element to the 666 program!
I think she's claiming it's worth 50 quid but if you join this month it's free...love how they just attach these random values to stuff!

PieonaBarm · 10/11/2025 22:15

Oh Yawn, please learn to proof read your posts, it hardly reaks of professionalism.....

Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!
YouOKHun · 10/11/2025 23:05

Oh that is an excellent typo. @HotAsSatansBallsit looks like you weren’t being too lavatorial in mentioning the bot potty because Yawn has defecated all over her own content. Good job no one’s watching.

MrsDilligaf · 11/11/2025 07:24

The "friend" she visited with the deficated space is a bot...

There are no real friends for Yawn, Dog walking gang has disappeared, the bike besties are no more, India buddy - gone.

Even her business besties have disappeared- no mention of the legal team.

Interesting to see the FLP recognition stuff, there are a few old friends in the lists!

user1471446301 · 11/11/2025 09:32

PieonaBarm · 10/11/2025 22:15

Oh Yawn, please learn to proof read your posts, it hardly reaks of professionalism.....

we've all said she talks a load of shite and there it is!

Spongebobette · 11/11/2025 18:31

Isn’t it about time for another branding photoshoot?

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YouOKHun · 11/11/2025 19:26

You’d have thought the so-called branding photographer who is part of the collaboration-that-never-was would be available to take some Canva-ready shots. The other photoshoots seem to have been very much something Yawn was lead into by her coach and new Best Friend (who hasn’t appeared much lately - a sign that Yawn has stopped paying her?).

Unless there is a huge hinterland of genuine friendships that are kept off social media (which is highly unlikely), it appears that Yawn has no non-transactional contact with the human race, as you mention @MrsDilligaf. This is all very well if it suits someone but when you’re running out of social currency and cash currency where and who would you turn to then? I imagine you’d have to relearn the social skills required for communication with someone without looking for their WHY/weakness.

Spongebobette · 11/11/2025 19:31

I’m sorry, I just find the fitness duo’s videos ‘filmed in a corner of a living room rather than my dedicated fitness studio because you plebs won’t have much space either’ absolutely hilarious

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HotAsSatansBalls · 11/11/2025 20:08

PieonaBarm · 10/11/2025 22:15

Oh Yawn, please learn to proof read your posts, it hardly reaks of professionalism.....

How very lavatorial! 😆😂

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 12/11/2025 13:17

Castle is doing a MASSIVE bizniz push at the moment, three days of "workshops" with the obligatory £47 'VIP' option. One of Yawn's old downline is in there. She's getting about 30 people on the lives despite thousands of people on the group. If she's only getting that and going all-out then Yawn has no hope whatsoever to make a go of BuildABear; there simply isn't the market for it.

user1471446301 · 12/11/2025 13:48

old Yawny chops on the unlucky club page "I was right here when I wanted to leave my previous career in high pressured sales & marketing ",

What a load of old cods, before it was always about nooks, crannies, pockets of time and willable income.

YouOKHun · 12/11/2025 15:59

She feels that tug “I want to start a business, but I’ve got so many ideas, I don’t know where to start !!” This what I suggested to her

1. Write down every idea. Get it out of your head and onto paper

2. Circle the one that excites you the most - even if it scares you a little

3. Ask….. “Would someone pay for this?” If the answer is yes, that’s your first spark of a profitable side hustle

She feels so excited & clearer on the route she wants to take. If that sounds like exactly what you need, get in touch & see what package would suit you best.

I’d like to stop Yawn at point number three as I think this might be where it has all gone wrong for her! When coming up with business ideas, jotting them down and then asking, ‘would someone pay for this?’, the answer to this question is surely not immediately available until you’ve done some fairly extensive research and asked some other questions such as ‘even if there are people who will pay for it does that mean it will make a meaningful profit’?’. What if Yawn had actually checked whether her dreams were viable business ideas by doing at least some of these things(off the top of my non-expert head):

Asking non-biased people in the general population (not downlines) whether they would pay for such a service and why/why not, and

Talking to people with expertise about whether it’s viable. Whether they can offer advice/reality check within their area of expertise.

Also seeing who else is doing the same, if lots of people are already doing it or a close version of the idea is it working for them, are there too many offering it already? Whats your USP? Is it just “gorgeousness” or something more concrete? If no one has the same idea, why is that - because it can’t work, because they’ve given up, because there is no demand, because you’re an original genius and no one has thought of it? Are you sure about that?

Also, some honest consideration of one’s own expertise, skills, experience, personality, talents and deficits. Speaking to others about your motivation; is it because you like the sound of being an entrepreneur? Are you motivated by being a millionaire or some vision of a lifestyle? Are those motivations the right ones or enough on their own?

Attention to the current climate and how one’s idea might fly or bomb in the current economic climate and whether timing is right. Acceptance that however attractive the idea is that it won’t work, or won’t work right now at least. What will it cost you while you’re trying to get people to pay for it, can you manage the lack of money? Should you delete Canva for now and concentrate on Excel?

I’ve probably missed out a load of considerations but the first spark of a profitable business is not deciding people will pay for it because you like the idea.

Crikeyalmighty · 12/11/2025 16:10

@YouOKHun beautifully put - there are many things people ‘will’ pay for, but you have to have a differentiator if you don’t have a totally unique concept - and if it’s high end spend, it needs to have high end quality and marketing - if it’s more budget end of spend - then it needs to be priced accordingly - this is what I think yawn and her ilk really haven’t grasped - people don’t want to pay £24.99 for what they can get for free- however using say Tik tok and at £4.99 could possibly work, worth a try, - but not offering all the one to ones etc - making £4 a month off say 1200 people with a bit of work is way different to trying to make £25 off 30 people and ‘a lot of work’

user1471446301 · 12/11/2025 16:32

YouOKHun · 12/11/2025 15:59

She feels that tug “I want to start a business, but I’ve got so many ideas, I don’t know where to start !!” This what I suggested to her

1. Write down every idea. Get it out of your head and onto paper

2. Circle the one that excites you the most - even if it scares you a little

3. Ask….. “Would someone pay for this?” If the answer is yes, that’s your first spark of a profitable side hustle

She feels so excited & clearer on the route she wants to take. If that sounds like exactly what you need, get in touch & see what package would suit you best.

I’d like to stop Yawn at point number three as I think this might be where it has all gone wrong for her! When coming up with business ideas, jotting them down and then asking, ‘would someone pay for this?’, the answer to this question is surely not immediately available until you’ve done some fairly extensive research and asked some other questions such as ‘even if there are people who will pay for it does that mean it will make a meaningful profit’?’. What if Yawn had actually checked whether her dreams were viable business ideas by doing at least some of these things(off the top of my non-expert head):

Asking non-biased people in the general population (not downlines) whether they would pay for such a service and why/why not, and

Talking to people with expertise about whether it’s viable. Whether they can offer advice/reality check within their area of expertise.

Also seeing who else is doing the same, if lots of people are already doing it or a close version of the idea is it working for them, are there too many offering it already? Whats your USP? Is it just “gorgeousness” or something more concrete? If no one has the same idea, why is that - because it can’t work, because they’ve given up, because there is no demand, because you’re an original genius and no one has thought of it? Are you sure about that?

Also, some honest consideration of one’s own expertise, skills, experience, personality, talents and deficits. Speaking to others about your motivation; is it because you like the sound of being an entrepreneur? Are you motivated by being a millionaire or some vision of a lifestyle? Are those motivations the right ones or enough on their own?

Attention to the current climate and how one’s idea might fly or bomb in the current economic climate and whether timing is right. Acceptance that however attractive the idea is that it won’t work, or won’t work right now at least. What will it cost you while you’re trying to get people to pay for it, can you manage the lack of money? Should you delete Canva for now and concentrate on Excel?

I’ve probably missed out a load of considerations but the first spark of a profitable business is not deciding people will pay for it because you like the idea.

@YouOKHun don't be a hater! All you need is wifi a dream and a botpotty ain't no one got time for strategies when a goal board can replace a Venn diagram. Why attract Data Analytics and Directors Loans into your life when you can have a bra full of crystals?

Spongebobette · 12/11/2025 17:18

Castle has much more ‘visibility’ than Yawn - despite Yawn asking people to pay her to learn about visibility 😂

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Spongebobette · 12/11/2025 19:24

I think there is a dentist among us in the bot watching crew here. I’m really distracted by the IT/website builder business partner’s teeth, what’s going on there?

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user1471446301 · 12/11/2025 19:41

Spongebobette · 12/11/2025 19:24

I think there is a dentist among us in the bot watching crew here. I’m really distracted by the IT/website builder business partner’s teeth, what’s going on there?

I'm seeing 5 bedroom mews houses in Kensington and Mayfair so it's a very wealthy dentist! maybe they could check out the Nantwich pile for a bargain price.

YouOKHun · 12/11/2025 21:10

@Spongebobette I’ve noticed that. Her gums look very painful. I don’t see her and Yawn pictured together much. I suppose (or hope) Techie Bot has realised that Yawn adds very little and she might as well plough on with her websites or whatever she does without too much expectation of Yawn’s brand of fairy dust.

Crwysmam · 13/11/2025 02:54

Dentist here. Sorry to disappoint but as a semi retired dentist who never really worked full time, I live in a little hovel not a million miles away from Yawnsville. I do shop in Waitrose though, where I used to regularly see Yawn “ networking “ in the cafe. I think it’s out of bounds for her now, she obviously doesn’t want to bump into Uber, who virtually lives there.

With regard to IT bots mouth, she has mild microdontia, roughly translated, her teeth are a bit on the small size for her mouth. The gum condition initially looks like gingivitis, the result of never cleaning your teeth ( common amongst male IT personnel ) but on closer inspection her teeth are pretty clean and the gums are hypertrophic rather than inflamed which could be a side effect of medication. Possibly blood pressure meds or maybe epilepsy meds.

You can tell a lot from the condition of people’s mouths. My party trick is identifying whether people are right or left handed, and whether they have a drink or drug habit. Teenage smokers are the funniest when mum asks what is causing the staining on their teeth. Professional standards means we have to be careful about how we answer that one. We are the keeper of many secrets.

Spongebobette · 13/11/2025 04:20

Thank you!

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