Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

I’m not sure I want to pay for a visibility coaching event by someone who gets zero engagement on any of her posts

Terrible when a professional top-notch business and marketing guru ‘cuts coners’ innit!

Ha ha- so true-

She's had SO many messages from people asking about how design some shit Canva images for Black Friday that the UNIVERSE (if that's what ChatGPT is being referred to now) told her to run a five step guide. Only £25!

Are all these messages in the room with you now Yawn? 😬

I very much get the impression that’s she’s racking her brains every day to come up with something new to offer, then does it overnight

Hardly the carefully planned 5 year strategy she pretends she’s working to

@Spongebobette I think ‘so many messages’ might mean 2 at best

I wonder how many out of pocket followers of Castle are patiently waiting the outcome of Castle’s [ficticious] legal pursuit of her scammer/business partner? She aligned herself with the real victims to prevent them putting two and two together and realising that Castle didn’t give a flying feck about them and only cared once it was likely to cost her.

Not a word on this from any of the Castles so perhaps Castle thinks she has managed to bat it away and she assumes her followers have her gnat-like attention span and have forgotten about it. Problem is that unlike Castle many of the people who got stung by the Scammer didn’t do it by giving their parents’ cash in used notes to the scammer with no due diligence. They lost their own cash by simply trusting Castle. Some of them must be asking her about progress surely? Does she just block those people or fob them off?

From past experience, Bruv is constantly monitoring their socials and instantly blocks anything negative - he blocked me on his AND her socials when I made a comment when he photographed a woman’s feet on the tube, posted on Insta and sneered at her. It was very rapid. And I’m sure he’s even more watchful these days, with the sort of grifter he associates with

@YouOKHun yep - I notice it’s not been mentioned - I was going to ask casually and then thought that she would simply ‘erase’ it promptly

@Crikeyalmighty I’m also tempted to ask if she has managed to sort out the collaboration with her CO DIRECTOR of xxxx Ltd yet so that she can reimburse those that got caught out by trusting Castle’s heavy promotion of her CO DIRECTOR but I think Bruv is poised with his big bottle of Tippex (which is almost used up thanks to Apprentice Bot lying all over social media which she is still doing).

@YouOKHun yep, it was phrased very much as if it was just a random she had lost money too — not that they were actually in business together as directors -

Apologies if this has come up before - haven't read the other threads.

Someone I used to know has started a 'business' (I think), doing sort of galactic/spiritual/light language/awakening work. She sells art, coaching, lessons on channeling etc. That doesn't seem very mlm-y in itself, maybe more grifty? But she has lots of comments under her posts from other woo-woo people (rather than say friends), and I wonder do they all big each other up for sales? Is it a bit like mlm, more like a cult? Do people doing this truly believe in what they're selling?

Has anyone else bumped into people doing it?

Was this someone you used to know involved in an MLM @BasicBrumble ? Some MLM bots who have “retired” from MLM reposition themselves as coaches (and not always of the spiritual kind). I haven’t come across many (if any) spiritual MLMs, but I’ve come across a lot of MLMs that are, most definitely, cults.

No, nothing like that (I've seen it with other friends). I just wondered if it was anything like an MLM or more like a culty grift as she seems to be propped up by all these people saying how wonderful she is, and she's apparently selling all this artwork, but I can't see who would buy it. I suppose as it's not product-led it can't be MLM so I will fade away - but do let me know if anyone encounters anything similar. I did find some academic papers talking about 'conspiritual' people selling stuff but not much else.

Please don’t fade away @BasicBrumble - would you mind sharing the details of the papers about “conspiritual” people selling stuff? That sounds very interesting!

This is the one I found while searching, but it's either too academic or too full of buzzwords for me. It's called 'Galactic transmissions from tantra bros, pu$$y priestesses, red-pilled starseeds, and ayahuasca girls: Decoding the pedagogies of conspiritual life coaching' https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10714413.2024.2388371#abstract

The person I know is more on the galactic transmission side than wellness generally.

I think this happens a lot -

The Boring Names’ house has made it onto the SpottedonRightmove sub on Reddit!! Am about to go and stick my oar in 🤣

What’s the thread called?

In Reddit search add the name of the town to what @dickiedavisthunderthighs has written and it’ll take you straight to it.

Reddit - oh dear 🤣. I maybe overthinking it but could there be another problem lurking for the Borings? Why would FLP apparently erase one of their very top bots? I know it’s not a good look when your top bot has to hand the keys to the mortgage company but why disappear? Why zero SM? Could he have some other problems like falling foul of money laundering rules in the none Aloe biz or something like that? Why can’t they continue scamming people in the usual way, or why can’t she carry on with FLP at some level (if she thinks it’s so great)?

I think the the taped up loo seats are only the first chapter of this Boring story.

Well with a taped up toilet we can put them in touch with someone who has a botpotty. I'm off to peruse the reddit thread @dickiedavisthunderthighs thank you for the pointer.

You could be onto something there @YouOKHun.

On the other hand, could the Borings have gone into victims wanting revenge mode? I wonder if they’ve got the brass neck to turn their guns onto FLP and are threatening to sue them, or go to the papers and dish the dirt about how they’ve been conned by FLP, and have lost everything they “invested” etc? They must know where all the bodies are buried …

Ah, the Botpotty @user1471446301 : the gift that keeps on giving! 😆 Yawn would probably charge desperate folk like the Borings more than a penny to spend a penny, and as they haven’t got two pennies to rub together, let alone a pot to piss in, they won’t find much relief by paying a visit to The Thatch. Ah … there’s nothing like a bit of lavatoria to pass the time on a Saturday evening.

But would the Borings even notice Yawn holding out her bot potty? Since she launched the great Invisibility Game Plan absolutely no one seems to be able to see her or hear her and even her Mum has stopped looking at her social media.

Don’t worry about the Borings @HotAsSatansBalls , they may be living in much more humble circumstances but at least there is no tape over the loo seat of their rented caravan’s Port-a-Potty. The downside is it needs emptying regularly and they are used to having a downline to tip it over.

It could be MLM as there seem to be lots of life coaching and wellness MLMs at the moment full of people who sell coaching sessions to each other.