Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

[Spongebobette]

Welcome one and all to the latest thread in a long series

We are here to expose the huns and bots who lie, exaggerate and prospect victims who don’t realise that the income claims and aspirational lifestyle are unachievable

The Unlucky Girl name is trade marked by someone in Essex I believe...

I see the manor hasn't sold yet. Back in November Bromwhich Hardy had it on for £2M then £1.8M and now are accepting offers for £1.6M.

The US must be getting twitchy with the rent of Arsehole and now an unsold millstone Manor.

Many Debt Free Millionaire Bots enthused about this "stunning property" but I don't see them queuing up to buy this listed lump on J15 as their "Forever" home.

I think that if you view every post and story through the lens of ‘UP YOURS UBER AND THE REST OF FOREVER LIVING LEADERSHIP, LOOK HOW BRILLIANT MY LIFE IS’ they make sense

I haven’t looked at the manor recently but pushing half a million pounds sliced off the price must be a concern especially as it’s hard to see who is going to want it. It’s not compatible with a modern workspace - what business is going to want to be saddled with a list building? No one with £1.6 to spend is going to want to spend hundreds of thousands to convert it to a home unless they really like Burger King and want to live on an industrial park with “good transport links”. I think FLP is going to have to sell it for less than £1m. I wonder how much Arsehole House is costing?

@SpongebobetteI agree. It feels like her comments on Stories and her whole positioning is designed for an audience containing Uber and other “toxic” people. Her comments and demeanour give away her level of insecurity and whether there has been negative interaction with FLP. When it’s going wrong she ups the positivity posts. She is so transparent.

I wonder if she has managed to convince herself that her business is amazing? I doubt she has convinced any audience of FBOs and FLP management because they will know the truth of her behaviour and the financial slide she has been part of. There is no way she has turned anything around and Uber et al know it. The only people who might be fooled by Yawn are her new victims (if there are any).

I wonder if FLP has anything to say about her private group selling a cost price? Or perhaps it’s not doing well enough to make any difference. Any income from Forever Living endeavours must have slowed or practically dried up. What happens with her active and loyal downlines such as Headband? Does she still have a downline? I’d love to know exactly what the relationship with FLP is and how it broke down. She was in FLP for life, none of this is her choice whatever she claims.

But But Beautiful Lemon Buttery Pleather! Teamed with Animal Print Boots? Girls Eating Salad photos have nothing on this.

Aren’t the photos “laughing with salad” with no eating ever happening?! You’re right @Botpottythese are “laughing with pastel coloured stationery” and make the laughing with salad style photos look like Cecil Beaton’s best work. For Mrs Snappy Snaps it’s more a case of “laughing all the way to the bank”. I prefer to swop laughing for laughable.

It's going to be a very tough sell even for £1M especially the with the listed aspect. It's not suitable Office Space, expensive to turn into a home, (if anyone would want to live there) expensive to run and won't attract investors for all the above reasons which is why FL want to unload it.

I think the minimum lease term they've could have taken on Arsehole is 3 years, they may have stretched to 5 if they got a really good deal.

For all Scamadopulus's updates and bespokyness project managing the layout it was a minimum partition fit on a real budget. I think when the lease is up they will cease to have a head office in the UK and just have a registered office.

I wonder if they'll centralise everything with Forever Direct in the Netherlands? It's where everything seems to be shipped from (via the US) and at the end of the day dwindling sales and a few whooping get togethers isn't giving them any real return here in the UK.

Spotted this slide on Headband’s page, it’s the ‘trying to make a pyramid not look like a pyramid’ one

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I’m surprised they didn’t add another circle to make it look like a four leaf clover. I can’t quite see the numbers but the “= £4,800 per calendar month” is bound to have been made to look easy and/or typical for someone who has been involved for a while (but not long enough to make it look like a slog). What goes through Headband’s mind (if anything goes through her mind at all) when she sees numbers like that? There is no way she can have achieved that in any month in the last decade. No doubt the disclaimer is just below in that small green bar at the bottom of the slide but it doesn’t cancel out all that is being said by 2Jags and Scamaloupolis who will be claiming £4800 pcm is possible and much more if you want it enough.

Omg...

The lies on that website! "Her latest book"...what a pile of absolute nonsense!

And why is her ‘wealth era’ course tagged with ‘£1000 value!’

I see Bruv is well in with the ‘belief coding’ guru

Apprentice Bot has got together with an alleged neuro-scientist who is single-handedly undertaking clinical trials for her cure all method which she says is evidence based and science backed. He’s already said it’s magic and much better than everything else so he’s clearly credible. She has “published a paper” to prove it which has more holes in it that Swiss cheese. The neuro scientist has never published anything.

I suspect she is raking it in as people are paying a lot to received her treatment (love bombing until you mention it doesn’t seem to be working at which point you’re told you’re doing it wrong). Of course she is also making money from training new belief coders and there is a less obvious recruitment element of those trained going out and recruiting others with enough vulnerability to join. It’s a real cult. No doubt Bruv can smell the money. https://www.ijsr.net/archive/v14i1/SR25116142135.pdf

Now Yawn has launched her affiliate programme (in build mode) I am just noting there are 68 Members as of today 15/3/25. We will be able to monitor the astronomical rise of numbers of all those affiliates wanting to earn 10% on £22.50 sign ups and a fairy note book.

Was literally about to say the same thing. It's a shameful lie. I can bet my last penny that no one has joined. Her lies know no boundaries. From offering up her "leatest" colouring book to fake reductions in price for the sheer crap being offered. She's not unique or "insanely" talented as she's purporting herself to be. She's not offering anything new, exciting or different. I've never seen as much desperation and wild peddling as I've seen in yawn. She has no clear idea of what she's doing. She's pinging from one thing to the next to the next quicker than a slinky going down stairs. She clearly has no real direction. Her website is word salad and frankly boring. It's no different to any other scammy spammy kook coach out there. All she's achieved is joining the queue of yet more idiots trying to scam people

I agree with everything you've said, her 'coaching' business is based on zero qualifications or experience (other than lies, bullying and chugging gloop).

She can only flog this horse for so long surely before admitting defeat.

She's fallen out with FL and obviously just ordering stock in her 'special group' and reselling at cost to keep her hand in. She's not actively "touching her business" (yuck) everyday so not recruiting and that's where the money is.

The well is going to run dry very shortly (hopefully like her husbands patience).

I don't feel sorry for her or view her as a victim she has knowingly made her own bed.

Couldn’t agree more @Sugarplum48and for all the noise she is making all that really exists is 68 members who are unlikely to be 68 paying members and who were generated through her association with Forever. Without the Forever visibility she will sink without trace very quickly in a sea of other identical coaches. Her audience is static and purchased, none of them are paying her money.

The only reason it has gone on as long as it has is the same reason Mr Yawn never features in her photos at home these days - he is working and propping things up. This does not indicate “six figure abundance” or the ability to help others achieve it.

I wonder what happened to her investment course?

It wasn't that long ago her mind was blown by compound interest, however £0 compounded is still £0.

Just get an actual job. Admit defeat, swallow your pride and get on with it.

The day she admits defeat with be the day we see a big announcement that her career has been so successful that she has decided to retire early to enjoy the abundance. This will be followed by “enjoy the simple things in life” posts and implying they are looking a Spanish villas before fading out. Then a Yawnsville based botwatcher will spot the for sale board outside the thatch or, some months down the line will be confronted by an irritable blonde woman in a fast food establishment asking, ‘do you want fries with that?’.

I've had a look at the particulars, it is a handsome house but needs a niche buyer who is happy with the location and who will have to invest £££££ to adapt it to their specs. FL will need to reduce the price until it is worth buying.

She again is trying another tactic to make money whi h isn't going to work. How many more things is she going to try? Blimey it's exhausting to see.

Surely (even if she can't) everyone around her (DH, followers, friends) can see that Yawn's actions exude desperation and that it's not a good look. Are they trying to tell her I wonder, or just letting her keep digging?

Photo shoots every couple of weeks, constant change of approach/direction of her vague "bizniss", random offers to join, no consistency, no evidence of the 1000s of members, the word salad, bonkers talk of manifesting and woo .... a load of desperate bollocks.

She's like a teenager who has no idea what they want to do with their life. She's grasping at any idea that she hopes will make her money. Her massive problem is her target audience of which is only old flp "mates", her current dwindling downline and all the fake bought bots. In reality she has likely had no reaction to this latest scam. She has to hope that someone wants to affiliate with her to get a new victim to then in turn hopefully make money to then pay that affiliate. It's all doomed before it starts. Titting around in sparkly boots and sick coloured dresses whilst having wated christ knows how much on pointless photos does not make you a success.