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Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Spongebobette · 01/12/2024 21:42

On this thread we are botwatchers - watching multi level marketing bots and exposing their manipulations and misleading claims

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YouOKHun · 10/12/2024 14:49

@DeliaDeetz I think she's just keeping her hand in and selling at a discount she's probably not not supposed to. I didn't think "independent" FBOs were allowed to do what she is doing. I see she is implying that the products will provide a solution to weight loss, perimenopause, skin ageing and energy levels. Still, no income/abundance claim on that post so that's something I suppose.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/12/2024 15:07

While FLP might 'discourage' people from selling on at a discount, they don't really care. Once a bot has purchased the product, FLP and the uplines have taken their cut. What the bots do next, whether it's consuming the product themselves, keeping it in the garage until it goes to landfill, pour it down the drain, give it away or sell it at any price makes no real odds to them.

YouOKHun · 10/12/2024 16:36

That's very true @Twentytwentyhindsight but I am wondering if she is selling at massive discounts whether that's a bit too rogue for FLP and has a negative outcome for other bots? Was it @dickiedavisthunderthighs who spotted that she was putting in orders and selling at massive discounts/at the price FLP sells to her?

It can't be entirely comfortable for FLP for her to demonstrate she is very much in FLP and still lying on their behalf by implying multiple benefits from the products without any evidence. She has been very Secret Squirrel about her private selling group which makes me wonder if she is treading carefully because she has been moved close to the exit already. Not sure 🤷🏻‍♀️

YouOKHun · 11/12/2024 11:08

Yawn has done a big post about manifesting her Rangey. I don't remember her owning a black one. I wonder why her parents went along to collect it. Perhaps they were funding it? I am dying to ask her if she is planning to manifest the latest model (and what happened to the one she had).

She is sliding back to holding up material goods as signs of success in an attempt to hold people's attention. However, photos from over a decade ago don't really cut it.

Spongebobette · 11/12/2024 11:57

She never had a black Rangey

white ones were the aspirational ones in MLMs

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YouOKHun · 11/12/2024 12:03

That's what I thought @Spongebobette. The story of manifesting a black Rangey with accompanying photos doesn't quite hang together.

Spongebobette · 11/12/2024 12:12

It doesn’t matter though does it, when you create your own reality and rewrite your history in an Orwellian fashion

we have always been at war with Eastasia

i have owned a black Rangey and am a debt free 6 figure earner

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 11/12/2024 14:51

YouOKHun · 10/12/2024 16:36

That's very true @Twentytwentyhindsight but I am wondering if she is selling at massive discounts whether that's a bit too rogue for FLP and has a negative outcome for other bots? Was it @dickiedavisthunderthighs who spotted that she was putting in orders and selling at massive discounts/at the price FLP sells to her?

It can't be entirely comfortable for FLP for her to demonstrate she is very much in FLP and still lying on their behalf by implying multiple benefits from the products without any evidence. She has been very Secret Squirrel about her private selling group which makes me wonder if she is treading carefully because she has been moved close to the exit already. Not sure 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yep, she's selling at 48%/net so she's getting the CCs but not any profit on the product. If I wanted a box of collagen (I don't) and had a choice between one of her downline selling at 12% or 20% discount vs her 'Sapphire Manager' discount it would be a no-brainer. So she's fucking her downline.

Angrymum22 · 11/12/2024 14:58

I think Yawn leased one for a year or so after her first big bonus check in 2015. I remember the leather colour🤮.
I always found it strange that she never used the local JLR dealership, but maybe all those manifesting trips to the showroom, which before Covid you could spend hours drinking free coffee and eating free pastries, led to her being banned. I suspect if you go in every week to sit in a car and have photos taken without buying a car then the staff get pissed off.
The local JLR is very swish and they do treat you like royalty even if you are dressed in jeans and a t shirt with no make up as long as you eventually buy a car.
I don’t know who FL used to arrange car leasing through but it may have been the company she states. She had to travel to Southampton for her white Rangy. Maybe the original company or the local JLR wouldn’t take on the business because I bet a lot of the bots who qualified for car finance deal couldn’t keep up with payments. I believe that they had to maintain their CCs in order to keep the finance. I would imagine the scheme was not popular with the lease companies.

DeliaDeetz · 11/12/2024 17:56

Someone's just asked Yawn if she's updating to the latest model!
Apparently not as she's now manifesting another make of dream car....🤣🤣

Spongebobette · 11/12/2024 18:08

Angrymum22 · 11/12/2024 14:58

I think Yawn leased one for a year or so after her first big bonus check in 2015. I remember the leather colour🤮.
I always found it strange that she never used the local JLR dealership, but maybe all those manifesting trips to the showroom, which before Covid you could spend hours drinking free coffee and eating free pastries, led to her being banned. I suspect if you go in every week to sit in a car and have photos taken without buying a car then the staff get pissed off.
The local JLR is very swish and they do treat you like royalty even if you are dressed in jeans and a t shirt with no make up as long as you eventually buy a car.
I don’t know who FL used to arrange car leasing through but it may have been the company she states. She had to travel to Southampton for her white Rangy. Maybe the original company or the local JLR wouldn’t take on the business because I bet a lot of the bots who qualified for car finance deal couldn’t keep up with payments. I believe that they had to maintain their CCs in order to keep the finance. I would imagine the scheme was not popular with the lease companies.

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I stand corrected!

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Wintersgirl · 11/12/2024 18:19

DeliaDeetz · 11/12/2024 17:56

Someone's just asked Yawn if she's updating to the latest model!
Apparently not as she's now manifesting another make of dream car....🤣🤣

Oh of course! I'll keep an eye out for the Bentley Bentayga then, they only cost £200,000 which is roughly the same amount as her Directors loan....

Sugarplum48 · 11/12/2024 18:56

Yawn needs to bore of. She has nothing original to bring to the table. Her content is just regurgitated boring crap. Banging on about her dog again. I'm even boring myself talking about her.

Spongebobette · 12/12/2024 08:46

Angrymum22 · 11/12/2024 14:58

I think Yawn leased one for a year or so after her first big bonus check in 2015. I remember the leather colour🤮.
I always found it strange that she never used the local JLR dealership, but maybe all those manifesting trips to the showroom, which before Covid you could spend hours drinking free coffee and eating free pastries, led to her being banned. I suspect if you go in every week to sit in a car and have photos taken without buying a car then the staff get pissed off.
The local JLR is very swish and they do treat you like royalty even if you are dressed in jeans and a t shirt with no make up as long as you eventually buy a car.
I don’t know who FL used to arrange car leasing through but it may have been the company she states. She had to travel to Southampton for her white Rangy. Maybe the original company or the local JLR wouldn’t take on the business because I bet a lot of the bots who qualified for car finance deal couldn’t keep up with payments. I believe that they had to maintain their CCs in order to keep the finance. I would imagine the scheme was not popular with the lease companies.

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Thank you for bringing back the word ‘swish’!!!

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Sugarplum48 · 12/12/2024 11:20

yawn dear, just because you put certain words in capital letters does not make what you say is true. Try a truth bomb eh!! Your outlandish bullshit has no ends.

YouOKHun · 12/12/2024 13:13

"My journal is FLYING off the shelves, consistently selling out"

Aside from the flurry of concocted positive reviews from downlines on one particular day there have been no further reviews and only movement down the rankings. Let's face it, there so many journals to choose from, one or two have an identical title let alone identical content, so the only sales she is getting is when she can successfully strong arm a downline or "coaching" client into going to Amazon and wasting eighteen quid. There is no way that is happening very regularly.

If her bizniz is booming why not drop FLP?

Spongebobette · 12/12/2024 13:38

Buying a colouring book is her latest advice 😂

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Sugarplum48 · 12/12/2024 13:53

It's utterly stunning how oblivious she is to what she is really presenting as. The only rank she's climbing is the rank of best lying knobhead scammer.

MrsDilligaf · 12/12/2024 15:03

But how can it consistently sell out 🤔? It's a print on demand item?

The only thing "flying" is the lies out of her mouth.

YouOKHun · 12/12/2024 15:57

Uber's post "Mastering Time Management with Kids in Network Marketing" seems overly long when I distinctly recall NWM has always been sold as the easy way to "be there for the kids/be a proper parent". It doesn't sound any different to the balance anyone has to strike, except that most of the bots will be working for free, or effectively paying to be on that zoom call at 9pm.

Clearly she's having to crack the whip among those who have bought the myth of earning money in small pockets of time and aren't doing enough to pass money up to her.

Come on bots - there are 24 hours in a day! Step away from your children * , Uber's new Barrett Executive Home won't pay for itself!

  • unless you're using your children as a prop on social media to promote you "business", in which case why not share photos of them in a state of undress/asleep/on the loo/in the shower on your public social media - what could possibly go wrong?
Wintersgirl · 12/12/2024 18:21

MrsDilligaf · 12/12/2024 15:03

But how can it consistently sell out 🤔? It's a print on demand item?

The only thing "flying" is the lies out of her mouth.

Exactly....

Amazon's services work by allowing creators to upload their designs or manuscripts, which are then listed on Amazon’s platform. When a customer orders a product, Amazon handles the printing, packaging, and shipping, ensuring that items are only produced as needed.

She's talking bullshit as usual....

Wintersgirl · 12/12/2024 18:23

Sorry, copied and pasted from Amazon hence the highlighted words in italics!

YouOKHun · 12/12/2024 18:42

@Wintersgirl presumably some of the people reading her post will know that self publishing on Amazon works like that and selling out of copies is never going to happen.

Nice easy job for Amazon seen as most of the pages are blank. What do Amazon keep? Isn't it about 60% of the £17.99 (the price has gone up)? She is going to have to sell a lot every week if she is going to reach the dizzy heights of the NMW. Presumably she's got the odd coaching client, a bit of FLP money, and the odd tenner from Amazon. She will have to do better than that if she is going to manifest a luxury car.

Sugarplum48 · 12/12/2024 19:21

I would imagine the down liners are told to shut up and not question any dodgy tactics pr lies that yawn spews. What a shit show of a life to live. Silly Billy needs to stop being a big fat liar. Maybe manifest trying to tell the truth eh yawn.

Wintersgirl · 12/12/2024 21:21

YouOKHun · 12/12/2024 18:42

@Wintersgirl presumably some of the people reading her post will know that self publishing on Amazon works like that and selling out of copies is never going to happen.

Nice easy job for Amazon seen as most of the pages are blank. What do Amazon keep? Isn't it about 60% of the £17.99 (the price has gone up)? She is going to have to sell a lot every week if she is going to reach the dizzy heights of the NMW. Presumably she's got the odd coaching client, a bit of FLP money, and the odd tenner from Amazon. She will have to do better than that if she is going to manifest a luxury car.

It's something like that, unless you're selling thousands a day it really isn't worth it...