Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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On this thread we are botwatchers - watching multi level marketing bots and exposing their manipulations and misleading claims

YOU SPOKE & I LISTENED

Quite a few of you wanted to book on my course - but January is tough month - being paid early for Christmas means January is a super long month, stretching finances ….

So MY LATEST GRIFT launches in March instead of February

Cancelled due to lack of interest ^^

She didn't last as a secretary, she didn't last in the police, she didn't last as a child minder ie taking toddlers to tesco to buy wine is not a activity. She hasn't made a consistent success in nwn aka pyramid schemes and these latest schemes are fucked

Yawn has unveiled her website complete with typos. The usual endless scrolling website full of cliched photos, pretend endorsements and "book now to beat the rush" statements; classic Canva coach website that will be lost among the many other coach websites. No cookie warning so clearly that required business basic is not something she understands or is including in her business coaching.

She asks if viewers can understand what she does from looking at her website.

Yes, yes we can.

I think she would be really good working in a holiday shop. As I do think in the flesh she is a smiley effusive person, and once she got them in I reckon most would walk out with a holiday. (Not to India though) . Also a genuine bona fide customer pays and gets goods thing. Unlike her current business (s) imagine the satisfaction with that!

Castle:

"I’ve seen so much online from other entrepreneurs saying how 2024 was the hardest year in business & how they had to change so many things to adapt to the “changing landscape” - they put to down tot he economy & changing government etc…

But…. What I found was it was my BEST year in business. I always question why? And reflect and this is what I’ve realised…

I had four core strategies"

1. Ask my Dad to pay for my latest whim
2. Ask my Mum to pay a bit more and clean my bogs
3. Get Bruv to tap Mum up for a bit more money
4. Get Dad to buy more stuff and empty his back pockets

That's why 2024 was a great year for me. I can trade at a loss, playing business woman and tricking others to follow my lead and I have absolutely no responsibilities or bills I have to pay! Just do what I do!

Yeah you wouldn't cancel if you had bookings....

I was looking at Yawn's (only) podcast guest's posts on FB, talk about bigging yourself up..
Claims to be a No1 Amazon best seller...bollocks she is, it's listed as number 645 thousand in books so less than one sold every 3 months or so, the book is upper tripe and very amateurish

Super excited about being invited to be on a podcast (Yawns) cue all the dopey replies from gullibles about how's she's a celeb and smashing it

Nominated for an award that no ones heard of....

These women really are playing shop, it's laughable

Utter tripe.....bloody phone!

Yawn’s exBFF has just posted about an upcoming FL event. Interesting that the FL UK, Ireland and Iceland private FB group only has 713 members. FL is in terminal decline in the UK and associated countries by the looks of it. At one time there was probably that many members in Yawnsville alone.

That’s a really low number - and for 3 countries!!

Taking toddlers to buy wine in Tesco 🤣🤣

@Angrymum22 I've been wondering about the private FBO group. Last year I saw a couple of posts about a new private FBO group being opened by HQ which people could only be part of if they were active, with the implication there would be nothing to see on the present FBO page. But nothing seems to have changed probably because there is no way they can afford to close a page which may have possible recruits looking at the content. The numbers who are part of that new group show how desperate things are.

PS: how about this very robust evidence for FLP's toothpaste?! Tested on a massive throng of 20 people who happen to be bots who then allegedly had a dentist in the pay of FLP look at their teeth after 28 days and claim a "60% drop in plaque" (if this "study" even happened). Just because no one is really seeing FLP's claims unless they are hooked into the pyramid it doesn't mean it's OK to conjure up these "facts".

Yawn says she offers a 30 minute complimentary call and has just had one with a "lovely lady" with the grain of an idea to become a person offering "hacks to mums" which doesn't sound like it has much substance.

Yawn says the call turned into an hour long. So that is an hour she has given away for free and there is no way the complimentary call will turn into paid coaching. For one that person has probably got what she wants from the complimentary call and secondly people with ideas like this are almost always trying to start something without funds and paying for coaching is way down the list of priorities. I'd love to know her conversion rate for turning complimentary calls into income - zero is my guess.

She is now claim to have run three successful businesses.

Hacks for mums is basically 25% of the content on Insta

Wow if sitting in a car forcing a smile and saying you are blown away by all the support you are receiving, and saying how excited you are constantly is any measure of success, I suppose she’s successful 😂

The problem is that Yawn is used to instant gratification, and that doesn't exist outside of MLMs. Less than 24 hours after launching her course, she's had no traction and is now panicking but why on earth did she expect anything else?

The Fierces and Castles of this world know that you have to give a lot away for free to even get close to getting a database of people you might be able to sell a paid for course into.

True @dickiedavisthunderthighs. I think the ability to play the longer game in the case of Castle and Fierce is due in part to much more generous funding from parents/elsewhere. I wonder if either of them sell much? Probably not, but it matters less as the wolf is further from the door.

Yawn is clueless about the realities outside MLM as you point out, and on top of that she also needs money right away. Even if she had the ability to take a more strategic approach there is no way she can. Playing the long game of showcasing her dream life (which costs money) while she builds followers and gives free enticements, all done over time; that needs to be underwritten. Unfortunately for her, her parents don’t seem to be as forthcoming as Castle’s and Mr Yawn seems like he’s scratching around for work having joined her in the bizniz and signed his own career death warrant in the process. She needs money right now.

She must be panicking, it’s like she is trying to bale water out of a sinking boat using a thimble.

I am curious about where this is all going to lead with Yawn as it’s obviously not working and isn’t going to.

Uber shows quite an aspirational lifestyle I think. She also seems less quick to block which must increase her audience.

Yawn can't really compete with that. I'd rather see uber on the ski slopes than yawn doing yet another photoshoot with a wand

I notice though that Uber's ski trip isn't in the school holidays . She's taken her youngest out of school for it .

She's clearly having to make some cut-backs eg. down-sizing their home but maybe not willing to completely give up things she's used to like holidays.

The "final" version of Yawn's website is still peppered with heaps of grammatical errors, missing full stops etc. Lazy lazy work. She's seems to have focussed entirely on using as many as possible of those photos she's paid through the nose for. It really does scream NARCISSIST.

Who cares about poor grammar when you are as successful, debt ridden, living your best EXCITED life and you're super EXCITED and your husband put a fire emoji on your super EXCITING pleather dress post that could of done with a belt as it looked shapeless🤣🤣 brave women who told her to wear that belt. But it's EXCITING...

Why are these fools always “super excited”? There’s a meme doing the rounds which amused me. Their excitement will soon turn to discomfort. 😉

It's very telling when you watch yawn on her appreciation videos, her whole manner is of someone who knows they are lying. The inability to keep eye contact, the overly fake enthusiasm and live she has for "strangers" who she states have supported her and who have apparently been waiting all these years for her to become a coach. I mean who knew eh!! Jesus her fictional life is like a bad episode of a badly put together soap. And the uber going super positive affirmations. Are they all smoking crack?? It's the only logical explanation with this group of loons. And that fucktard sleeze, he needs removing full stop.

Saying you are ‘off to a business lunch now with another successful business woman’ is high on the list of things no successful business woman would ever say

Bots, life coaches etc do exist in an alternate reality to actual businesswomen, it’s two different worlds and ways of being entirely