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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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SwedishEdith · 02/12/2024 20:12

Nicflowers82 · 02/12/2024 20:01

I can see £1000 in my blue app! On £45k holding. Never won that much in one draw, so very pleased. And never seen it appear so early on in the evening !

How exciting! Would love to win a good chunky amount like that. Would be happy with pp's £500 as well.

Jingleballs2 · 02/12/2024 20:15

Does it only show early on the app if you're reinvesting?

The background of my yellow app has turned blue for some reason.. I'm hoping it means a win hahah

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 20:16

Nicflowers82 · 02/12/2024 20:01

I can see £1000 in my blue app! On £45k holding. Never won that much in one draw, so very pleased. And never seen it appear so early on in the evening !

Were high on the list ?

Or it's 500 x 2 or 100 500 50 etx

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blitzen · 02/12/2024 20:20

2×£100 for me on ~£27k

Nicflowers82 · 02/12/2024 20:37

Jingleballs2 · 02/12/2024 20:15

Does it only show early on the app if you're reinvesting?

The background of my yellow app has turned blue for some reason.. I'm hoping it means a win hahah

Yes I think mine must be showing so early because it’s a reinvestment. It’s showing as an auto reinvestment (with todays date) rather than in prizes.

Jingleballs2 · 02/12/2024 20:40

Nicflowers82 · 02/12/2024 20:37

Yes I think mine must be showing so early because it’s a reinvestment. It’s showing as an auto reinvestment (with todays date) rather than in prizes.

Thanks, I still have hope then 🤣

Spaceracers · 02/12/2024 20:41

@Nicflowers82 congratulations! What will you treat yourself to?

hairbearbunches · 02/12/2024 20:42

I just noticed from @Blondeshavemorefun post, that PBs have been about since 1957. A bond from 1959 won this morning. It was £5 bond from £31 total holding and won £5k. I love these wins almost as much as I love winning myself.

BibbityBobbityToo · 02/12/2024 20:48

hairbearbunches · 02/12/2024 20:42

I just noticed from @Blondeshavemorefun post, that PBs have been about since 1957. A bond from 1959 won this morning. It was £5 bond from £31 total holding and won £5k. I love these wins almost as much as I love winning myself.

I am suspicious about where the money goes. E.G if the person died 40 years ago the prize won't be valid but unless NS&I have proof of that and redistribute it to another bond, does it end up as a Brucie Bonus for the government?

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 02/12/2024 20:54

BibbityBobbityToo · 02/12/2024 20:48

I am suspicious about where the money goes. E.G if the person died 40 years ago the prize won't be valid but unless NS&I have proof of that and redistribute it to another bond, does it end up as a Brucie Bonus for the government?

Some people on here have had a bonus prize drop through the door saying that the original winner couldn’t have the prize so it was drawn again.

Pudmyboy · 02/12/2024 21:10

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 00:02

This doesn't open for me, I am using Google Chrome: does it need a different system?

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 21:16

Mine never seems to show on the app. I do reinvest as nowhere near the £50k max

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Sparklfairy · 02/12/2024 21:16

Pudmyboy · 02/12/2024 21:10

This doesn't open for me, I am using Google Chrome: does it need a different system?

Check your downloads folder, it auto downloads on mine.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 21:17

hairbearbunches · 02/12/2024 20:42

I just noticed from @Blondeshavemorefun post, that PBs have been about since 1957. A bond from 1959 won this morning. It was £5 bond from £31 total holding and won £5k. I love these wins almost as much as I love winning myself.

Yes lovely to see old winners

Imagine what a diff will make to their lives

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BibbityBobbityToo · 02/12/2024 21:17

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 02/12/2024 20:54

Some people on here have had a bonus prize drop through the door saying that the original winner couldn’t have the prize so it was drawn again.

I still think there must be a huge number of small holdings that were never claimed by the persons estate and NS&I wouldn't even know they died e.g 40 years ago.

Pudmyboy · 02/12/2024 21:18

Sparklfairy · 02/12/2024 21:16

Check your downloads folder, it auto downloads on mine.

Yes it has downloaded, just won't open, though I am using my phone: is it better on a laptop? (Thanks for the very prompt response!😀)

EducatingArti · 02/12/2024 21:18

Nothing showing for me in the blue app yet either and I reinvest

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 21:19

How weird @Pudmyboy

I can't quote a quote as on the mn app

But works my end

www.nsandi.com/files/asset/xlsx/prize-december-2024.xlsx

Shouldn't make any diff which server you use to open it

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Whyherewego · 02/12/2024 21:19

Nothing for me but last month had a good haul so can't complain

Sparklfairy · 02/12/2024 21:20

Pudmyboy · 02/12/2024 21:18

Yes it has downloaded, just won't open, though I am using my phone: is it better on a laptop? (Thanks for the very prompt response!😀)

Oh! I always use a laptop, makes me go all cross eyed trying to read the vast spreadsheet on my phone! Grin

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 21:21

I do on my Phone

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RockaLock · 02/12/2024 21:24

I think the earlier bonds all had a date of 1957.

For example, I was not born until the 1970s, but I have 2 bonds with an issue/purchased date of 1957 that were given to me by my grandmother when I was born. (I still have the original paper bonds, but can also see them in my online account).

Maybe they just printed loads at first and didn't get through them very quickly, or maybe they just didn't change the date when they printed new batches or something.

RockaLock · 02/12/2024 21:25

Good luck everyone for tonight/tomorrow!

Pudmyboy · 02/12/2024 21:35

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 21:19

How weird @Pudmyboy

I can't quote a quote as on the mn app

But works my end

www.nsandi.com/files/asset/xlsx/prize-december-2024.xlsx

Shouldn't make any diff which server you use to open it

No luck, I have a Google pixel phone, don't know if it is better with iPhone?
But thank you! 2.5 hours to go till I can look up my account! (Though hope to be in the land of nod by then)

WearyAuldWumman · 02/12/2024 21:45

RockaLock · 02/12/2024 21:24

I think the earlier bonds all had a date of 1957.

For example, I was not born until the 1970s, but I have 2 bonds with an issue/purchased date of 1957 that were given to me by my grandmother when I was born. (I still have the original paper bonds, but can also see them in my online account).

Maybe they just printed loads at first and didn't get through them very quickly, or maybe they just didn't change the date when they printed new batches or something.

Yes. I wrote to them because I noticed that it stated my first bond - £10 - was born in 1957. In actual fact, my mum bought it for me on her birthday in 1962.

The confirmed that all the older bonds were assigned 1957 when they went digital. (I still have the paper one upstairs somewhere.)

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