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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Humphreyshead · 02/12/2024 21:56

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Humphreyshead · 02/12/2024 22:01

There are some crazy wins on that list! Someone invested only £100 last year and has won £25k! 😮

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:01

So on the blue app under bond record I have £25 showing as eligible for January
So I've only won £25?
Disappointing

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 22:02

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:01

So on the blue app under bond record I have £25 showing as eligible for January
So I've only won £25?
Disappointing

We're waiting on December's results, not January's.

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:04

@paranoidnamechanger but isn't this where the pending prizes show?
I can see what I won last month is showing as eligible for December . I didn't add anything extra afterwards and it's showing this £25 as eligible for the January draw .

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 22:04

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:01

So on the blue app under bond record I have £25 showing as eligible for January
So I've only won £25?
Disappointing

Better than nothing

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spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:06

@Blondeshavemorefun my % has tanked this year

Phase2 · 02/12/2024 22:09

@Pudmyboy try this link

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker/winners

Minikievs · 02/12/2024 22:11

I think I've won £500!!!!! It's showing as automatic reinvestment on my blue app 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Nothing for the DC on it, we have £28k between us, £10k of it is mine!!!

I can't WAIT to see it pop up on the prize app 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤑🤑🤑

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 22:13

@spidersnope I see what you mean now. I think you've set your account so that wins are automatically reinvested (as do I) so in which case that's why the £25 you won last month is eligible for next month, because with reinvested prizes they're not like the manual PB's paying where they have to be in there for a month - reinvested wins are automatically eligible for the following month. Did you win £25 last month?!

CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 02/12/2024 22:16

Some good wins so far!!

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:17

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 22:13

@spidersnope I see what you mean now. I think you've set your account so that wins are automatically reinvested (as do I) so in which case that's why the £25 you won last month is eligible for next month, because with reinvested prizes they're not like the manual PB's paying where they have to be in there for a month - reinvested wins are automatically eligible for the following month. Did you win £25 last month?!

Yes. But what I won last month is showing as eligible for tonight's draw .
I can't get back in the app now either it won't let me log in
I think this £25 is this month's win pending .

Oneblindmouse · 02/12/2024 22:21

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 18:34

Search in the App Store for ‘NS&I’.

I did, in the Play Store (android phone).
It only shows the cream app, which I already have.
Is the blue one an apple app perhaps?

Autumnpumpkin · 02/12/2024 22:22

Sorry me again asking questions, I can see some people have already won prizes, congratulations!
my blue app isn’t showing anything and the main login says no prize this month.
Does this mean that this month I haven’t won or could it be that more prizes will come out tomorrow?

SundayDread · 02/12/2024 22:23

Every month I complain it’s at midnight! I have FH so can’t see on the blue app anyway. Nothing for DD so far.
might check the list to send me to sleep and then check at 2am when I can’t sleep

Bimblesalong · 02/12/2024 22:23

@Autumnpumpkin there’s still time. I tend not to see anything on the blue app until after 11.30 and sometimes not til the next day. Hang on in there!

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 22:24

I have an iPhone but the blue app is called NS&I and not unique to Apple @Oneblindmouse

Bimblesalong · 02/12/2024 22:24

I’ve programmed my Alexa to tell me this month, so I can ask when I wake in the night without having to open my phone.

Minikievs · 02/12/2024 22:25

@Autumnpumpkin I've had prizes that didn't appear as reinvestment so I thought I'd got nothing, but then at midnight it all refreshed and showed wins.
I've also had (on DC account) one win showing the evening before as reinvestment but then at midnight it's actually been two prizes, one had shown up but the other hadn't.
Don't give up hope until it's prize app time 🤞🏻

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:25

@Autumnpumpkin so it's taken me months to work this out but I think this is where the pending prizes are on the blue app

So I have £25 showing for the January draw now so I'm guessing that's what I got in todays draw

PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......
paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 22:27

No that’s not eligible this month @spidersnope !

Autumnpumpkin · 02/12/2024 22:30

Thanks everyone! Fingers crossed for all

spidersnope · 02/12/2024 22:31

Sorry , meant to say £25 eligible for the January draw

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 22:38

Autumnpumpkin · 02/12/2024 22:22

Sorry me again asking questions, I can see some people have already won prizes, congratulations!
my blue app isn’t showing anything and the main login says no prize this month.
Does this mean that this month I haven’t won or could it be that more prizes will come out tomorrow?

No

My winnings never show on the app the night before

So you may still win tomorrow

As May I

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 22:39

Bimblesalong · 02/12/2024 22:23

@Autumnpumpkin there’s still time. I tend not to see anything on the blue app until after 11.30 and sometimes not til the next day. Hang on in there!

Yes it will show for me on the day

Just not the night before

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