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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Rhumba · 26/11/2024 11:02

Yup, reconsidering here too!

Hoolahoophop · 26/11/2024 11:06

Thinking of moving mine.

I love waiting for the draw, but could probably get a better rate elsewhere now.

Maybe I'll be lucky enough for a last big win in December before I duck out.

paranoidnamechanger · 26/11/2024 11:13

Oh great 😩 Just when there’s a good chance I could finally get to FH after aiming for years.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/11/2024 12:28

Not surprising. Bank rates go down

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recklessgran · 26/11/2024 12:38

Maybe I'm being cynical. Earlier this year I was convinced that the £25 prize was eventually going to be phased out as the number of £25 prizes seemed to reduce with each rate increase. However, with this latest rate reduction news I note that the number of all prizes above £25 is being reduced and the number of £25 prizes will be increased by over 300,000. I do wish "Rachel from accounts" would load a bit more of the revenue into the lower prizes to spread thje joy a bit as God knows we could all do with it!

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/11/2024 13:36

Here explains how's the spread out the amounts

www.nsandi.com/get-to-know-us/monthly-prize-allocation

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Blondeshavemorefun · 26/11/2024 13:43

This shows the amount in prizes

PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......
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EducatingArti · 26/11/2024 16:17

It is annoying that they are reducing the win rates! Savings account rates seem to be reducing too though. PB still useful if you are in danger of being taxed on other interest though!

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/11/2024 17:46

I'm still in it for fun and what if

But then I don't have £50k in there

But after not winning for 2mths and having a little money spider run over me I'm hoping for a little win this month

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CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 26/11/2024 23:23

Checking in

Onedaynotyet · 27/11/2024 11:40

Thank you.

CaveMum · 27/11/2024 11:58

Guessing no one here had that EuroMillions ticket last night then?! 😜

FishPie2 · 27/11/2024 12:11

CaveMum · 27/11/2024 11:58

Guessing no one here had that EuroMillions ticket last night then?! 😜

Nobody has claimed it yet. 12 noon.

carlottacandle · 27/11/2024 12:56

I got 4 numbers but only won £12.10 😭

starrymidnight · 27/11/2024 13:00

user9086572 · 23/11/2024 10:10

So this thread has just prompted me to move some of our savings that were sitting in a poor interest savings account. DH and I have just put in £20k each..

Just making sure you know you can’t win in this draw - but you’ll be in for Jan!

user9086572 · 27/11/2024 13:44

CaveMum · 27/11/2024 11:58

Guessing no one here had that EuroMillions ticket last night then?! 😜

I think it was me. My app has locked me out which is probably for security reasons since there is £175m sitting in my national lottery account

mumda · 27/11/2024 14:20

The rate drops for savers are crazy.
Inflation is going to go up with all the pay rises so the BOE is once again aiming for record low rates so people can borrow more money than they sensibly can afford. This means those of us with savings for our old age (And other things) basically get fooked over.

Lifestooshort71 · 27/11/2024 17:36

I've had the full amount in for a couple of years and my winnings have averaged out at 5% which I've been dead chuffed about, however, the last 2 draws nothing, zilch, zero and I'm seriously considering moving some. As with all of us though, it's the thought of a big win tax-free that is the temptation.....perhaps I'll wait a couple of months and see if it was just a dry spell!

Florafleur · 27/11/2024 18:00

Old fashioned me, back, late with my cheques! 😂 ( or ‘warrants’ as NS&I call them).

Exciting November….seven envelopes, seven cheques!

Total of £425. (3 x £100, 1 x £50, 3 x £25) - the most I've won in a single month.

PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......
Bimblesalong · 27/11/2024 18:47

That’s fab @Florafleur I won 7 this time, the most ever. I hope I haven’t used the majority of my luck with that.

As long as I get the equivalent of my best savings account minus tax, my pennies are staying in Pb.

ChanelBoucle · 27/11/2024 18:59

carlottacandle · 27/11/2024 12:56

I got 4 numbers but only won £12.10 😭

I woke up very early to a message saying I’d won a prize but the app and website were down until about 7am! Was most pissed off to finally find out I’d won £2.60 👎
Been thinking about the big winner today and wondering if I might know them well🤞

PopGoesTheProsecco · 27/11/2024 19:57

Am following this thread. Under sad circumstances I'm due an inheritance of around 70K. I have no idea how to invest it and am considering premium bonds.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2024 20:52

I used to love a cheque @Florafleur

It's just a simple white Envelope but a certain size and you would just KNOW looking at your name /address that it was a pb cheq

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Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2024 20:53

PopGoesTheProsecco · 27/11/2024 19:57

Am following this thread. Under sad circumstances I'm due an inheritance of around 70K. I have no idea how to invest it and am considering premium bonds.

Sorry for your loss

But enjoy the legacy

So buy something nice to remind you of the person

A nice holiday

I would put in enough to make £50k if you have some already

Many will say do isa first

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CaveMum · 27/11/2024 21:00

@PopGoesTheProsecco sorry to hear of your loss.

As @Blondeshavemorefun says, make sure you’ve maxed out your ISA allowance before looking at PBs. Unfortunately they’re not as good as they once were but if you’re already maxing your tax free allowance and have some more in a higher rate savings account then PBs can be a nice way to keep some of it.

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