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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Autumnpumpkin · 02/12/2024 11:04

Thank you both so much! It’s my first month in the draw and I’m probs a bit too excited 😂

CaveMum · 02/12/2024 11:05

Negroany · 02/12/2024 00:26

Aw! Sorry it wasn't you!

I can't really follow it, because I have FH I have no odd number to look for in that column, and I can't remember what tranches I purchased in, so no idea what the value column should say. I can vaguely remember the purchase dates. Also, as I was reinvesting when I hadn't got FH, if a reinvested bond won I'd have no idea what the "bond value" column would say nor the date!

If you have the Blue NS&I App it tells you your Bond Numbers so you could always while away the time looking at those!

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 11:10

Autumnpumpkin · 02/12/2024 11:00

Hi, please could someone show me where I can get the big winners list? I have the app but it says there won’t be a draw until tomorrow? Thanks

Highlight my posts as I'm op

Should show

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Neddevine · 02/12/2024 11:31

MillyVannily · 02/12/2024 07:56

Nothing here, unfortunately. I added quite a lot last month so am so disappointed I keep getting nothing. I will wait a couple of months and move my money in a proper savings account. At least the % there is fixed.

You may still have won prizes...only the big winners have been released so far. Check tomorrow!

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 12:30

Neddevine · 02/12/2024 11:31

You may still have won prizes...only the big winners have been released so far. Check tomorrow!

Although those bonds wouldn’t be eligible anyway for this month, if bought by @MillyVannily in November.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/12/2024 12:31

FiveShelties · 02/12/2024 03:24

Is that this month's draw or last month's?

This month.

ETA

Nope. Last month! I swear it said "December" when I checked last night. It's now changed to "November".

I've had that happen before - once. Maybe my brain's not working...

Autumngreenleaves · 02/12/2024 12:32

How can a bond that was purchased in November 2024 have won anything?

WearyAuldWumman · 02/12/2024 12:33

Bimblesalong · 02/12/2024 04:58

This month’s draw results come in around midnight tonight - another 19 hours of excitement to maintain!

Unless I'm mistaken, my win stated "December" when I checked last night...but you're right...It now says "November". Mind you, I've had a similar glitch with the prize checker before.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/12/2024 12:35

Ah well. I haven't won after all. Trust to make an eejit of myself.

Phase2 · 02/12/2024 13:38

Autumngreenleaves · 02/12/2024 12:32

How can a bond that was purchased in November 2024 have won anything?

Reinvested winnings are eligible for the next draw

MillyVannily · 02/12/2024 14:19

Neddevine · 02/12/2024 11:31

You may still have won prizes...only the big winners have been released so far. Check tomorrow!

I know. I was greedy hoping for a big prize. 🤣 last 2 months I won nothing on 20k so am a bit pissed off. I added money in October so they are eligible for this month's draw for sure. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

hairbearbunches · 02/12/2024 15:04

Hmm...

Area ✅
Bond amount ✅
Month purchased ✅
Total holding ✅
First three letters ✅

and then it all went to shit! 😂

Heart rate went up for a good few minutes though while I did a proper check. It was £100k as well. What a bummer!

DrMadelineMaxwell · 02/12/2024 17:04

Just had an interesting time reading some of the history behind the bonds but without finding the answer to may main question.

This link has some interesting facts... https://www.theprivateoffice.com/cash-management/history-nsi

What I wanted to find out was how many prizes you could once win, as I found an old newspaper with a list of winning bonds, which would be the only way people could check if they had won unless they waited to receive a cheque in the post.

The history of NS&I | The Private Office

The history of NS&I

https://www.theprivateoffice.com/cash-management/history-nsi

JellyBeanFactory · 02/12/2024 18:01

Good luck everyone - 6 hours until App updates.

If the Bond Gods are watching and listening, I could do with a few thousand this month if at all possible. Please and thank you kindly.

Oneblindmouse · 02/12/2024 18:22

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 01/12/2024 21:07

There is only a picture on the cream app if you won last month.

I won last month but have no picture🙁 I also can't find out how to download the blue app. I only have the cream app.

Jingleballs2 · 02/12/2024 18:24

Third month and nothing the first 2 months so fingers crossed for some luck this month!!

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 18:34

Oneblindmouse · 02/12/2024 18:22

I won last month but have no picture🙁 I also can't find out how to download the blue app. I only have the cream app.

Search in the App Store for ‘NS&I’.

hockeysticks89 · 02/12/2024 19:16

I'm showing £500 in the blue app which I'm delighted with- 42k holding

EachandEveryone · 02/12/2024 19:17

I’m not showing anything in the blue app ☹️

lovenaturelovelife · 02/12/2024 19:29

Just a quick question regarding blue app pending prizes- where do they show? under bond values or transactions and also do pending holdings add up to your total holdings?

Rhumba · 02/12/2024 19:32

lovenaturelovelife · 02/12/2024 19:29

Just a quick question regarding blue app pending prizes- where do they show? under bond values or transactions and also do pending holdings add up to your total holdings?

Any time from now onwards but not uncommon not to show before midnight ( or sometimes even later..)

Zippidydoodah · 02/12/2024 19:39

I just got both apps. It’s saying one more day til the draw. Fingers crossed for tomorrow, then!

Zippidydoodah · 02/12/2024 19:40

JellyBeanFactory · 02/12/2024 18:01

Good luck everyone - 6 hours until App updates.

If the Bond Gods are watching and listening, I could do with a few thousand this month if at all possible. Please and thank you kindly.

Aaaw. I could too, but you’ve asked so nicely, I hope you get it! Rooting for you 😁

EmotionalSupportPotato · 02/12/2024 19:42

Nothing in blue app

Nicflowers82 · 02/12/2024 20:01

I can see £1000 in my blue app! On £45k holding. Never won that much in one draw, so very pleased. And never seen it appear so early on in the evening !

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