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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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EmotionalSupportPotato · 03/01/2025 09:59

ThisOldThang · 03/01/2025 09:47

@EmotionalSupportPotato

You can buy premium bonds in you children's accounts and you have full control of the accounts and prizes.

Ah I was thrown by "house money"

Neddevine · 03/01/2025 10:03

£175 for me on £37 k and £150 for DH on £40 k. Very happy with that - Good start to 2025!

DurhamDurham · 03/01/2025 10:08

£50 for me on £32k
£25 for husband on £32.

We were so disappointed but we'll cheer up next month when the agent comes knocking! Grin

spectaclereceptacle · 03/01/2025 10:09

Wa-hay! £300 on FH. I'm pleased with that as it's the most I've had for several months (including two months with a big fat zero.)

boatgirl81 · 03/01/2025 10:25

Can I ask how do you calculate the interest won?

RachelCarew · 03/01/2025 10:29

Add up your winnings over a 12 month period and divide it by your holding amount, multiply by 100. Compare it to the interest rates on offer at the banks.

I’m a higher rate tax payer so hold onto my PB as I’d have to pay tax on conventional interest received even if my current streak is dreadful.

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and will go for a read

PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 ......... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/money-matters/5243704-premium-bonds-jan-25

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:52

@NerrSnerr

Did you find yourself on the list

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:54

Justhereforthechristmasthreads · 03/01/2025 01:47

Cream app shows £25 (first January win since 2022) and despite reinvesting it doesn't show on my blue app yet (which normally shows any win for me earlier than the cream) so really goes to show we can't rely on anything but the actual prize checker.

Any wins for me never show on the blue app till later and I reinvest

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:54

Squiffy01 · 03/01/2025 04:20

gah so disappointing.
im on full holdings and haven’t won in anything for three months now!

That's unlucky

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:55

CaveMum · 03/01/2025 07:08

£0 for me and £25 for DH, both on FH 😤

Our worst month in the 14 draws we’ve been active.

Damn you prize adjusters!

Wow that's bad for £100k

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:56

Q2C4 · 03/01/2025 07:15

@Blondeshavemorefun sorry if this is a dim question, but on the xls, what does value of the bond column indicate? I thought that each bond notional value was £1, and bonds could be purchased in multiples of £25? There is no guarantees interest rate, and each bond has the same chance of winning, so what causes the bond value to be more than £1? Thanks!

Sorry just seen this

It's the value of when they bought them

So in a bundle of x amount

But again no rhyme or reason to what or who wins

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:59

ScouserInExile · 03/01/2025 09:53

I've just looked if we could buy some for our dog, but sadly not.

😂

Kids or grandkids or put in partners name etx

But

A hue risk if split as in their name

Needs total trust

And why most only do kids names and remove before 16 and they take control

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Wiaa · 03/01/2025 11:00

I didn't win on FH ( won every month last yr ) but DH won £325 on FH so ok overall

NerrSnerr · 03/01/2025 11:24

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:52

@NerrSnerr

Did you find yourself on the list

No, I can't find myself but will look again in a bit. I must be there somewhere (I keep checking and the £1000 has definitely been reinvested so wasn't a dream).

space99 · 03/01/2025 11:43

DH most unhappy as he hasn’t won anything for 3 months now. Has approx 30k. DS did well and won £250 and I got a measly £25 on 32k.

BlessicaBlimpson · 03/01/2025 11:52

£50 for me on FH

PremiumPrizesPlease · 03/01/2025 11:58

1.5% over 5 months for me is pretty piss poor. I'll give it until March.

Neddevine · 03/01/2025 12:18

Forgot to add that DS also won £100 (on £3 k) in his second ever draw. I'm really delighted for him..he was so happy to win!

wheresmyshoe · 03/01/2025 12:43

Nothing on £6k

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 03/01/2025 12:56

As I was up with a DC after midnight, I let myself down and checked the NS&I website instead of waiting until my morning cup of tea today. It was a mistake, as I went to bed feeling disappointed and disgruntled and then got up this morning, remembered, and felt disappointed and disgruntled all over again, something I'd been trying so hard to avoid! I did well this month in avoiding looking at the HVW list for once, but must do better next month and avoid the prize checker until the full results morning. I'm just not made for the PB triple rollercoaster of hope, excitement and disappointment. I don't know how some of you do it every month for years and years?!

First the good news. This month, DC1 has had a first and only win in ten months of draws of £100! At least that has broken the duck, is something back at least after nearly a year of investing in PBs, and hopefully is the start of something better in 2025. The house total for the rest of us was £100 which, (whilst obviously better than nothing!), only adds to a low total over the ten months.

Ah well, only another 31 or so days to go, as a pp helpfully pointed out!

Congratulations to all the winners and those doing well over all with their PBs. Hard cheese to the rest of us - here's to better luck next month and in 2025. 🧀

Cowhen · 03/01/2025 12:58

ScouserInExile · 03/01/2025 09:53

I've just looked if we could buy some for our dog, but sadly not.

That's ruff.

clary · 03/01/2025 13:01

Just added up my FH winnings since last Jan and it comes to more than £3,700 which is a great return.

Does include one x £1k and one x £500 but the 100s and 50s all add up too. Feel a bit happier about this month’s zero now :) well done to all the winners.

EducatingArti · 03/01/2025 13:02

£25 here. I seem to win a small amount every 3 months! I know it is random but it is following that pattern for me so not expecting another win till April!

PremiumPrizesPlease · 03/01/2025 13:03

Wishing us all good luck next month!

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