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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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ExitPursuedByABare · 01/12/2024 18:02

My photo on the app has changed already 🤞

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 01/12/2024 19:05

Just checking in.

Noveltyrocks · 01/12/2024 19:13

Fingers crossed for decent wins everyone 😀

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/12/2024 19:22

Tonight will be the list so I will put that up

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Blondeshavemorefun · 01/12/2024 19:23

As in after midnight so tomorrow tech

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EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 19:39

I'M SO EXCITED

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 19:40

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

For dec

AM sun 1 dec
LIST mon 2 dec
APP Tue 3 dec

LEGEND

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 01/12/2024 19:54

So midnight Monday then? I try to stay awake. AM didn’t turn up here but I don’t need all that. £150k would be enough.

WeAreBorg · 01/12/2024 19:56

Joining for the monthly ritual humiliation of not winning

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 20:00

WeAreBorg · 01/12/2024 19:56

Joining for the monthly ritual humiliation of not winning

It's not humiliating. It's random.

WeAreBorg · 01/12/2024 20:03

EmotionalSupportPotato · 01/12/2024 20:00

It's not humiliating. It's random.

Thanks for this really helpful explanation. I can stop flogging myself in despair now

AKAanothername · 01/12/2024 20:13

Namechange6578 · 28/11/2024 23:00

I have power of attorney for my DMs finances, she's in a care home and her house has recently been sold. Which means she has 250k sitting in her current account.

I know I need to move some due to only 85k being covered by the FCSC. I'm wondering if it's worth me putting 50k into premium bonds, and how easy is that for me to do for her?

You could also put the rest of the money in NS&I in a savings account, there is no £85k limit in NS&I, it's all covered as it's government backed.

Zippidydoodah · 01/12/2024 20:16

We won £300 between us last month! Not bad! Good luck everyone 😁

TyreChangeLightOn · 01/12/2024 21:04

I don't seem to have any picture in the cream app that can change. Which page is it on please?

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 01/12/2024 21:07

TyreChangeLightOn · 01/12/2024 21:04

I don't seem to have any picture in the cream app that can change. Which page is it on please?

There is only a picture on the cream app if you won last month.

TyreChangeLightOn · 01/12/2024 21:10

Aha - I see. I don't recall there ever having been a picture but maybe it's too long since I won anything of note!

CaveMum · 01/12/2024 22:40

Fingers crossed folks!

Eaumyword · 01/12/2024 22:50

Checking in ☺️
We had our worst winnings last month so hoping for more luck this time round!

Negroany · 01/12/2024 23:21

TravelInsuranceQ · 28/11/2024 22:59

I was wondering whether many people still receive their winnings via cheque or have most people moved to automatic reinvestment of prizes (if below the FH) or automatic transfer to a bank account? (if you've got the FH)

I'd be curious to know how much NS&I spent printing out cheques and posting them out, and whether they could reduce their admin costs enough to provide more prizes if they forced people to stop receiving cheques? 😀

I used to work for the cheque and credit clearing company, which oversees the issue of cheques, printing and end of day balancing (on behalf of the banks). This was about ten years ago. Everyone was saying we could stop issuing cheques because they were only used by ancient aunties giving birthday gifts to their nieces and nephews, and small businesses.

This wasn't true. The two biggest users were HMRC and NS&I. After that, loads of PLCs still send out cheques for their dividends. Aunt Doris and your window cleaner are way down the list.

The company was working on the cheque scanning project which has since rolled out. So at least paying them in is easier (in most banks).

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 00:02

Good luck everyone

www.nsandi.com/files/asset/xlsx/prize-december-2024.xlsx

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 00:19

Lots of small winners

My Heart has a mini jolt - thought I had won £5k as very similar amount to me. Dates were right and I was omfg.

It was £1 out when I checked my total

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Negroany · 02/12/2024 00:26

Aw! Sorry it wasn't you!

I can't really follow it, because I have FH I have no odd number to look for in that column, and I can't remember what tranches I purchased in, so no idea what the value column should say. I can vaguely remember the purchase dates. Also, as I was reinvesting when I hadn't got FH, if a reinvested bond won I'd have no idea what the "bond value" column would say nor the date!

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 00:27

To name a few of the small holdings winners

£100k - £505

£50k - £535 - £370
Couple of £1/2k winning £50k

£25k - £100 - £325 - £450 - £119 -£100 - £700

£10k - £30 - £400 £525 £15

£5k - £5

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 00:28

Negroany · 02/12/2024 00:26

Aw! Sorry it wasn't you!

I can't really follow it, because I have FH I have no odd number to look for in that column, and I can't remember what tranches I purchased in, so no idea what the value column should say. I can vaguely remember the purchase dates. Also, as I was reinvesting when I hadn't got FH, if a reinvested bond won I'd have no idea what the "bond value" column would say nor the date!

Yes if have FH the list isn't that helpful

So Many FH winners in my country

If I ever for that lucky maybe I would lose £3 and have £49997 to make it easier to spot 😂😂😂

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2024 00:30

Oh well. Bed for me and Tuesday I will be grateful if win £25

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