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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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RubbishDay · 29/11/2024 19:17

The thing with reducing the big prize but having more of them is that people like me would probably not bother with PBs as it is the 'fun' part of potentially winning big and yes one million would be significantly life changing.

It's a bit like the stupidly large lottery prizes. I always have an extra ticket when they come round just because of the unbelievable potential prize pot.

I started the year really well but then had two months of no winnings on FH. Hoping the year ends as it started 🤞

Sparklfairy · 29/11/2024 19:30

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 29/11/2024 18:28

I was thinking earlier about the latest EuroMillions prize of £177m after seeing the pps about it. Nobody needs that amount of money, even allowing for helping family, friends and charities. On balance I decided that I would rather 177 people won a million each instead and similarly with Lotto. A million pounds is still a lot of money and would be life-changing for most people, allowing them to pay off a mortgage or buy a very decent house or help family or friends, and with money left over.

This led me on to thinking about the main PB prize of a million pounds which we all dream of winning! The OP tells us it's been a million pounds for over 30 years and I wonder what the top prize would be now if it had kept pace with inflation? About two million pounds?

I know some people will think that a million pounds isn't enough but we're probably not living on the same planet!

The euromillions is just ridiculous tbh. Whoever won it became richer than Harry Styles while they slept Grin

The thing that gets me is the next prize down (match 5 + 1 star) was .... £53,642.70. Now don't get me wrong, I'd quite like that amount of money. But to know that you hit ALL the numbers except one of the lucky stars and missed out on £177m - and the consolation prize was £50k is actually quite a devastating thought... I'd rather hit no numbers at all or win £2.60! Grin

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/11/2024 20:00

Yes who needs over 100 million

That's why I don't do the lottery

It would prob ruin you life

A much smaller prize for the winner and the other shared over the other numbers

Ans not to roll over more than twice or if no one gets all the numbers to then divide the prize

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Spaceracers · 29/11/2024 21:01

£1m wouldn't enable us to stop working (not sure we would to at our age!) but would still be life changing - and would mean not paying off our mortgage till we are 70 :(

JollyHostess101 · 29/11/2024 22:24

I didn't see the new thread I'd thought I'd lost you all!!

Trying to get DH to sort out his online account is like pulling teeth so we've missed tipping his up for this year!!

omega4ever · 29/11/2024 23:27

Good luck everyone.
Hoping for another lucky month...especially before Christmas.

Countrylife2002 · 30/11/2024 20:10

My df told me in the week about a £5 bond he’d not seen since the 1950s!
I’m now on a mission to find it! All I have are his details and his old home address….

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/11/2024 20:45

Countrylife2002 · 30/11/2024 20:10

My df told me in the week about a £5 bond he’d not seen since the 1950s!
I’m now on a mission to find it! All I have are his details and his old home address….

Info is in first post for old /lost bonds

Good luck

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SB1971 · 30/11/2024 20:48

This is gonna be our month guys-good luck all!

NoOneKnowsWhoYouAre · 01/12/2024 07:56

@BuyingButterAndSatinSandals
This led me on to thinking about the main PB prize of a million pounds which we all dream of winning! The OP tells us it's been a million pounds for over 30 years and I wonder what the top prize would be now if it had kept pace with inflation? About two million pounds?

Not a bad guess

PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......
paranoidnamechanger · 01/12/2024 09:55

I put in another £500 last night just in time to meet the deadline for the January draw eligibility. I’m a little worried about the prize rate going down again next year but then if that happens interest rates for ISA’s and saving accounts will go down also so what can you do?

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 01/12/2024 11:07

Happy Agent William day, everyone!

Beautifulbouquet · 01/12/2024 11:17

I've had £1000 worth of bonds for four years and have never won anything. Nothing!

Can anyone beat this for period without a win. It makes me feel so unlucky 😣

paranoidnamechanger · 01/12/2024 11:25

The picture in the cream app has changed - it was the girl and the sparkler and now it’s a younger girl looking up at at (I think) a Christmas tree. But we’ve established a picture change doesn’t necessarily mean a win, haven’t we?

nellly · 01/12/2024 11:51

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 01/12/2024 11:07

Happy Agent William day, everyone!

Oh is it today!! I thought i was out when he didn't come yesterday so this is excellent news

Sallyingon · 01/12/2024 11:59

Yeah scientifically proven that the picture changed means nothing except that you won last month.
Good luck everyone for the final draw of the year. Looking forward to hearing about some nice big wins.

Wrapunzel · 01/12/2024 12:15

Sallyingon · 01/12/2024 11:59

Yeah scientifically proven that the picture changed means nothing except that you won last month.
Good luck everyone for the final draw of the year. Looking forward to hearing about some nice big wins.

Yes, I didn't win last month Hmm and have no picture. Agent William will knock shortly I'm sure!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 01/12/2024 12:35

Sparklfairy · 29/11/2024 19:30

The euromillions is just ridiculous tbh. Whoever won it became richer than Harry Styles while they slept Grin

The thing that gets me is the next prize down (match 5 + 1 star) was .... £53,642.70. Now don't get me wrong, I'd quite like that amount of money. But to know that you hit ALL the numbers except one of the lucky stars and missed out on £177m - and the consolation prize was £50k is actually quite a devastating thought... I'd rather hit no numbers at all or win £2.60! Grin

I don't get much sleep, so that would have been an especially good half a night's sleeping work for me, had I won it! It would have worked out at about £44m an hour and definitely worth getting out of bed for. I don't think I'd have felt quite as tired either, that morning or since, as I usually do. There would certainly be a bit more of a spring in my step!

Very happy to help you with that devastating thought in future, Sparkl. Just pass that £50k on to me and I'll give you £2.60 for it! Problem solved.

BibbityBobbityToo · 01/12/2024 12:42

Beautifulbouquet · 01/12/2024 11:17

I've had £1000 worth of bonds for four years and have never won anything. Nothing!

Can anyone beat this for period without a win. It makes me feel so unlucky 😣

That's pretty normal to be honest, most people who see a reasonable return have £50K saved in PB, or even £100K for couples.

Martin Lewis has an average luck calculator on his website and from memory, I think it's anything above £25K that tips the balance in favour of more regular prizes.

Beautifulbouquet · 01/12/2024 12:46

BibbityBobbityToo · 01/12/2024 12:42

That's pretty normal to be honest, most people who see a reasonable return have £50K saved in PB, or even £100K for couples.

Martin Lewis has an average luck calculator on his website and from memory, I think it's anything above £25K that tips the balance in favour of more regular prizes.

Oh really??? OK thanks. I get that £1k in any single draw is low odds...but I've been in 49 draws without a win...wondering how much longer!!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 01/12/2024 12:47

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 01/12/2024 11:07

Happy Agent William day, everyone!

S/he's bound to come to us today as we're right out of Millionaire Shortbread. What a faux pas. Do you think Christmas cake or a Cinnamon Knot will pass muster?

First Sunday of Advent greetings everyone. Xmas Smile

paranoidnamechanger · 01/12/2024 13:05

Over four years @Beautifulbouquet Martin Lewis says you can expect to win £150 with average luck, although that’s based on the current prize rate.

Beautifulbouquet · 01/12/2024 13:29

Yes thank you @paranoidnamechanger I can only hope that my below average return so far is because I'm about to win £5k x

Tequilamockinbird · 01/12/2024 17:58

Is it tonight or tomorrow night that we (may) see wins appear on the blue app?

Good luck everyone for this month 🤞🏼

paranoidnamechanger · 01/12/2024 18:02

Tequilamockinbird · 01/12/2024 17:58

Is it tonight or tomorrow night that we (may) see wins appear on the blue app?

Good luck everyone for this month 🤞🏼

It’s tomorrow night.

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