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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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paranoidnamechanger · 28/11/2024 20:18

Looking at that list posted by @Rhumba is a bit demoralising but what other kind of savings accounts give you the chance to win really big every month? I know there’s Halifax and you need to have at least £5K to be eligible but unlike Premium Bonds it doesn’t matter how much you have in your account, you just need to have a minimum of £5K.

Sparklfairy · 28/11/2024 22:44

The new thread seems pretty quiet considering it's nearly Agent William Day! I hope it's not because loads of posters have cashed in their bonds with the prize fund decrease Sad

CaveMum · 28/11/2024 22:46

I’m still here @Sparklfairy! we won’t be cashing ours in until next summer at the earliest so you’re stuck with me I’m afraid!

PrioritisePleasure24 · 28/11/2024 22:51

I’m still here but i’ve not won since Feb so i’m not very excited these days 😂 I won’t take them out ( less than 5k) but i am actively saving elsewhere.

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/11/2024 22:53

I'm here with my small holdings

I deserve a win as Havnt had one for a few months

Agree it is quiet but not AM yet 😂

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TravelInsuranceQ · 28/11/2024 22:59

I was wondering whether many people still receive their winnings via cheque or have most people moved to automatic reinvestment of prizes (if below the FH) or automatic transfer to a bank account? (if you've got the FH)

I'd be curious to know how much NS&I spent printing out cheques and posting them out, and whether they could reduce their admin costs enough to provide more prizes if they forced people to stop receiving cheques? 😀

Namechange6578 · 28/11/2024 23:00

I have power of attorney for my DMs finances, she's in a care home and her house has recently been sold. Which means she has 250k sitting in her current account.

I know I need to move some due to only 85k being covered by the FCSC. I'm wondering if it's worth me putting 50k into premium bonds, and how easy is that for me to do for her?

paranoidnamechanger · 28/11/2024 23:06

When I got into PBs last year for the first time I was really surprised to find out NS&I still send out cheques - surely there’s no need to do that these days?

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/11/2024 00:19

TravelInsuranceQ · 28/11/2024 22:59

I was wondering whether many people still receive their winnings via cheque or have most people moved to automatic reinvestment of prizes (if below the FH) or automatic transfer to a bank account? (if you've got the FH)

I'd be curious to know how much NS&I spent printing out cheques and posting them out, and whether they could reduce their admin costs enough to provide more prizes if they forced people to stop receiving cheques? 😀

They forced me to stop

I wasn't allowed to keep having cheqs

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BibbityBobbityToo · 29/11/2024 01:24

Namechange6578 · 28/11/2024 23:00

I have power of attorney for my DMs finances, she's in a care home and her house has recently been sold. Which means she has 250k sitting in her current account.

I know I need to move some due to only 85k being covered by the FCSC. I'm wondering if it's worth me putting 50k into premium bonds, and how easy is that for me to do for her?

I found the process as POA very difficult. Whatever you decide though, only buy £100 to start with until you get it set up then top up with £49,900. Otherwise NS&I will squirrel away the funds in a suspense account for months while you're hunting round for all the information they keep asking for. While the funds are in a NS&I blackhole you obviously won't get any interest on the money.

FiveShelties · 29/11/2024 03:45

Good Luck everyone and thank you for the new thread @Blondeshavemorefun

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 29/11/2024 13:40

Still here and checking in. Thanks for the new thread Blondes.

2 days to go to AM shortbread at the ready
3 days to go to the HVW List eyestrain
4 days to go to the apps and Prize Checker last chance saloon

Yikes - our last chance to win in 2024. Good luck everyone and let's hope we're all soon having more fun just like the OP! 🤞🍀🙏

hellswelshy · 29/11/2024 14:17

Thanks for the new thread! I hadn't realised there was a new one, thought it was quiet haha! Good luck all, I'm hoping for a win to end what's been a pretty lucky year. I've won every month bar 2 I think?

Countrylife2002 · 29/11/2024 17:34

Sparklfairy · 28/11/2024 22:44

The new thread seems pretty quiet considering it's nearly Agent William Day! I hope it's not because loads of posters have cashed in their bonds with the prize fund decrease Sad

But if they have we have more chance 😁

Patienceinshortsupply · 29/11/2024 17:46

I had to contact NS & I recently as my app was telling me one set of prizes but my bank account was telling a whole other story. They were incredibly helpful and the issue was sorted out in under 10 minutes. I was very impressed.

Hoping I get the right app details this month!

DurhamDurham · 29/11/2024 17:52

Would be lovely to have a good sized win in December wouldn't it, perfect month for the Agent to come knocking.

I've had a relatively successful year so won't be withdrawing my bonds.

My Dad died last December and we have kept his bonds in, they're due to be cashed in at the end of this month and I'd love it for my mum if he won on his last month. He's won regularly through the year as he has full holdings. Imagine on his last month of having bonds he won big. He'd have loved that for his family.

Phase2 · 29/11/2024 17:55

Place marking for Sunday

m4rky1985 · 29/11/2024 18:00

Good luck everyone - Lets hope for one last win of 2024!!

EachandEveryone · 29/11/2024 18:17

Yes good luck everyone

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 29/11/2024 18:28

I was thinking earlier about the latest EuroMillions prize of £177m after seeing the pps about it. Nobody needs that amount of money, even allowing for helping family, friends and charities. On balance I decided that I would rather 177 people won a million each instead and similarly with Lotto. A million pounds is still a lot of money and would be life-changing for most people, allowing them to pay off a mortgage or buy a very decent house or help family or friends, and with money left over.

This led me on to thinking about the main PB prize of a million pounds which we all dream of winning! The OP tells us it's been a million pounds for over 30 years and I wonder what the top prize would be now if it had kept pace with inflation? About two million pounds?

I know some people will think that a million pounds isn't enough but we're probably not living on the same planet!

Wrapunzel · 29/11/2024 18:56

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 29/11/2024 18:28

I was thinking earlier about the latest EuroMillions prize of £177m after seeing the pps about it. Nobody needs that amount of money, even allowing for helping family, friends and charities. On balance I decided that I would rather 177 people won a million each instead and similarly with Lotto. A million pounds is still a lot of money and would be life-changing for most people, allowing them to pay off a mortgage or buy a very decent house or help family or friends, and with money left over.

This led me on to thinking about the main PB prize of a million pounds which we all dream of winning! The OP tells us it's been a million pounds for over 30 years and I wonder what the top prize would be now if it had kept pace with inflation? About two million pounds?

I know some people will think that a million pounds isn't enough but we're probably not living on the same planet!

I could definitely retire on £1m with my other assets Grin 4% withdrawal rate is £40k pa.

LozzaChops101 · 29/11/2024 18:59

I got my first ever win last month, on my teeny weeny account! Won 25% of my balance, was very chuffed!

Florafleur · 29/11/2024 18:59

paranoidnamechanger · 28/11/2024 23:06

When I got into PBs last year for the first time I was really surprised to find out NS&I still send out cheques - surely there’s no need to do that these days?

I'm the one with the cheques! Just love the surprise of going into my post box, seeing the envelopes and tearing them open to see what they reveal!

@Blondeshavemorefun - they did send me a form this time saying they could only post out my £25 cheque if I returned it ‘for security reasons’ 🙄 The form, of course was asking if I wanted winnings paid to my bank account/bond account…i know I'm pushing my luck, but I said no….😆

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/11/2024 19:08

That would be lovely @DurhamDurham Sorry for your loss

@BuyingButterAndSatinSandals as houses are so much esp in south east a million May pay off the mortgage but not much left over so would still need to work

Nice to hear small amounts win @LozzaChops101 I have small holdings and was doing very well beginning of year but last 2mths nothing

@Florafleur you don't use the app or list I put up monthly

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paranoidnamechanger · 29/11/2024 19:09

I would love it if NS&I split their two big prizes - instead of two millionaire prizes there would be four people with £500K each, but I know it would never happen because potentially being a millionaire is part of the PB’s brand. Or instead of there being 82 prizes of £100K there could be 164 with £50K each.

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