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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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pinkfondu · 04/12/2024 06:16

Good morning all, I'm happy with mine

I got £125 (3 prizes) on £15944.
£325 on the last six draws.

Freddiefan · 04/12/2024 06:23

I won £100 this month (full holding). It works out as 3.1% over the year. I'm not a gambler but enjoy this tiny bit of excitement every month.

CRJ77 · 04/12/2024 06:31

This was my first month doing premium bonds and I won £75 on £18.5k. Need to take most of it out temporarily to pay for some big expenses but will build it back up in the new year!

Pumpkinforever · 04/12/2024 08:43

First month. £100 on a £10k holding

WobblyLondoner · 04/12/2024 13:00

Just calculated my return - is 4.9% which I’m happy with (£2450 on FH).

JumpinJellyfish · 04/12/2024 13:07

Can’t find my post from earlier but I retract my statement that I won nothing on FH - checked back in later and actually won £150 (1x£100 and 1x£50) - must have taken ages to update!

NetballHoop · 04/12/2024 13:36

Our total return for 2024 on 2x full holdings comes to £3,875 which is just slightly up on 2023.

Not an amazing return but still something to look forward to checking every month.

wizzler · 04/12/2024 13:53

Just totted up my winnings for the year and it's just over 4% on average holdings so I'm happy with that .

Wiaa · 04/12/2024 14:25

I won £175 on fh full year is 4.2% dh has won a lot less than me he's at about 3%

lemonyellows · 04/12/2024 14:41

Well after a few poor (or non existent) months, won £400 on half holdings! Best haul for me so far. Very pleased.

northerncharm · 04/12/2024 15:05

10% return for me on £5k. Very lucky year!

wheresmyshoe · 04/12/2024 15:13

Nothing on 6K, it has been a very poor return this year even before I had to withdraw £15k

greengreyblue · 04/12/2024 15:57

Since June on £30k we have won £750!!😀

littlelandlord7 · 05/12/2024 06:38

£75 on £33k for us this month

JellyBeanFactory · 05/12/2024 09:58

No larger wins on here this month ☹️
Hopeful for a big win in 2025 🤞

space99 · 05/12/2024 12:43

Very disappointing results in our house. Nothing for DH or DS, who both have 30K. I was a little luckier and won £25 and £50 on 32K. Daren’t work out our interest rates as they would be rubbish.

Kangarude · 05/12/2024 18:15

I don’t use the apps. Have £11,100 in bonds.
I thought that I would have heard by yesterday if I had won, but I got an email today. £100 on a £1000 bond that was only eligible this month. I’m happy with that

CuriousRunner · 05/12/2024 20:23

3.9% over 2024 for me

AprilShowerslastforHours · 07/12/2024 13:35

Slightly confused. The cream app said I had five prizes but the letter I just received only mentioned the highest value win. Does that mean the other four are not winners? (The highest was £500 so not a major win.)

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/12/2024 18:49

Have a look on blue app. Should show your winning

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Blondeshavemorefun · 07/12/2024 18:59

For Jan draw which seems ages away due to bank holidays

I'm not totally sure due to bank holiday and that changes AM

🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀

AM Comes the day before first working day unless a bank holiday

Nyd is wed Jan 1 so first working day is Jan 2 thur for the list

so does that mean AM isnt Jan 1 nyd as that's a bank holiday and comes Dec 31 nye which isn't a bank holiday

I'm Thinking day before so maybe nye and below list is when I think

AM Tue 31 dec
list thur 2nd jan
App Fri 3 jan

Or

Does everything shift a day due to bank holiday

AM thur 2nd jan
List Fri 3rd jan
App sat 4th jan

What do you all think ?

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RubbishDay · 07/12/2024 19:11

App says 3rd so I think your first list is correct.

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/12/2024 20:25

RubbishDay · 07/12/2024 19:11

App says 3rd so I think your first list is correct.

I didn't even think of looking on the app

😂😂

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AprilShowerslastforHours · 07/12/2024 23:39

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/12/2024 18:49

Have a look on blue app. Should show your winning

I’ve tried a number of times to log on to the blue app but for some reason I never can. Have checked login details many times. Oh well, will just have to wait and see.

mcmooberry · 07/12/2024 23:40

Only just found this and my theory of a downward trajectory with £200 in October, £100 in November, was correct. Nowt for me on a FH so that was very disappointing indeed.

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