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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Cowhen · 03/12/2024 14:32

Nothing on about 6k. Annual return of less than 1%. Sigh. And to add insult to injury, Blondes called me a loser. 😄

JellyBeanFactory · 03/12/2024 14:48

Pft. £50 on FH.

Roll on 2025 🍀

Bixterret · 03/12/2024 14:55

£250 this month on full holding

How do I work out what the interest rate was this year on my total winnings?

RoseBliss · 03/12/2024 15:15

Bixterret · 03/12/2024 14:55

£250 this month on full holding

How do I work out what the interest rate was this year on my total winnings?

All of your winnings divided by your total holdings.

e.g. £2,000 / £50,000 = 0.04 x100 = 4%

Snowpaw · 03/12/2024 15:17

£25 on £20k - I'm a bit miffed with that.
I've won £950 in total over the course of 2024, which I guess I should be grateful for, but it does seem to have dropped off a lot recently.

RoseBliss · 03/12/2024 15:22

£200 on FH for me and a disappointing 3.05% return over this year.

DH was done better. £550 this month on FH and a 5.65% return over the year.

Between us the return has been 4.35% which I guess isn’t too bad considering it’s tax free.

Here’s to 2025… dreaming of that knock on the door!

Bixterret · 03/12/2024 15:26

@RoseBliss

0.063 = 6.3%

Is that right?

RoseBliss · 03/12/2024 15:56

Bixterret · 03/12/2024 15:26

@RoseBliss

0.063 = 6.3%

Is that right?

Yes that’s correct and a great return on your money!

m4rky1985 · 03/12/2024 15:57

£0 for me this month 😢

MyRabbit79 · 03/12/2024 16:30

£300 for me and I was feeling pretty pleased as it's my highest yet but I've just worked out my average return over the year so far.... 0.32%!

December needs to be pretty spectacular to bring that up to anything nearing most people's!

Bixterret · 03/12/2024 16:40

@RoseBliss

Yes that's what I thought! I hope you were as lucky.

Thanks for your help.

Merryberry123 · 03/12/2024 16:41

I can't see any prizes for December does that mean I've not won or it hasn't updated yet? (Wishful thinking!!!)

mechanicalpencil · 03/12/2024 17:00

No message for me today
it just went straight through to “31 days til next results on January 3”
So guessing that’s a no for this month.
Still delighted with the year overall, won 10 months out of 12.
Congratulations to all the winners! 🎉

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 03/12/2024 19:28

Nothing for me again this month, had under a 2% return this year which is really disappointing.

ThisOldThang · 03/12/2024 20:18

Full Holding
£25 x 5
£100 x 1

Total = £225

I won £200 last month, so that's £425 in two months of full holding.

I'm currently on a 5.1% annual return, but it's far too soon to be extrapolating out my winnings for the full year.

Sharpkat · 03/12/2024 20:38

£100 for me on FH. We have 3 x FH and have just over £6k in prizes this year, so 4%. We are fortunate to be able to donate the winnings to charity so it works for us.

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2024 20:48

@PrioritisePleasure24 I think I had many peoples luck !!!

Over the year I've won £1925

And around 34% on under £6k

Which is extremely rare

And not sure why I've been so lucky this year

Hard to work it out as total added to over the year with either winnings or odd £25 here and there

I reinvested it all

That's with 3mths getting nothing and 2mths getting 550 and 400

@Cowhen I'm sorry 😂💐

One more draw and will lose half of it to pay tax and start saving again

I will say that it's been mainly my reinvesting that has won

Not my old bonds for years ago

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GrazeConcern · 03/12/2024 20:50

@MyRabbit79 did you definitely multiply your divided result by 100? As even your win today on a full holding would be a 0.6% return.

MyRabbit79 · 03/12/2024 20:54

GrazeConcern · 03/12/2024 20:50

@MyRabbit79 did you definitely multiply your divided result by 100? As even your win today on a full holding would be a 0.6% return.

Yep! The average is lower because I had a couple of months with no wins and this month's £300 is my highest in the year.

Oneblindmouse · 03/12/2024 20:55

paranoidnamechanger · 02/12/2024 22:24

I have an iPhone but the blue app is called NS&I and not unique to Apple @Oneblindmouse

Thanks. I have searched everywhere for the blue app but can only find the cream one.
I won £250 this month. A total of £1,825.00 since March 2024 on full holding.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 03/12/2024 20:56

We have won something in only 4 months out of 9, totalling £550 which works out on average as £61 per month. That's not great. I've spent today with that post-PB draw 'morning after the night before' feeling of disappointment and regret! January 3rd seems a long, long time away. I'm really hoping for - and relying on, to be honest - better luck for the last 3 months of our first PB year and in 2025. I'll happily settle for winning just what we need and leave AM to call on someone else. Good luck next time everyone. 🤞

Agapornis · 03/12/2024 21:09

Merryberry123 · 03/12/2024 16:41

I can't see any prizes for December does that mean I've not won or it hasn't updated yet? (Wishful thinking!!!)

(and also @mechanicalpencil )
You can check your holder's number in the prize checker, which will give you the definitive answer.
https://www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Prize Checker

Ready to see if you have won a prize? Enter your holder's number to check if you’ve won in this month’s Premium Bonds draw. Good luck!

https://www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Shootingstar2018 · 03/12/2024 23:59

Very happy with £600 for me and £25 for DS on £27k between us. I've had a great year with around 8% return and he's on just under 3.5%. Let's hope the luck continues into 2025!

Flapjacker48 · 04/12/2024 04:43

50 on full holding. Joke.

SisterWendyBuckett · 04/12/2024 06:15

£150 on £20K holding. I've been increasing my investment little by little over the last couple of years and this is the most I've ever won in a month.

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