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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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ShyTed · 03/12/2024 09:43

£225 for me on about £24k so I’m delighted!
off the top of my head I think the only month I didn’t win something was May but I’ll check later and also out of interest ill work out my %

hairbearbunches · 03/12/2024 09:47

Bizarrely, exactly the same as last month. £50 for me, £25 for DH on full holdings. Bit disappointed with that, tbh. Better than a poke in the eye with a big stick though 😀

My year renews in December so last year's rate was 4.3%. Pretty happy with that overall.

CaveMum · 03/12/2024 09:53

Worked out my sums now. We've had the PBs (2x FH) for just over a year and have won £4,075 in that time so a return of 4% is probably slightly better than we'd be getting in a savings account - ISAs are maxed out so we'd be paying tax on a basic savings account and DH is a high rate tax payer.

mrsfeatherbottom · 03/12/2024 09:55

Nothing for the 2nd month in a row for me with £20k. Disappointed as I was hoping for something before Christmas.

Jewell25 · 03/12/2024 09:59

Just £25 for me this month. My interest works out at 6.28% for the year though which I’m happy with.

TheFlis · 03/12/2024 10:17

Nothing for me but I’ve won £225 on £3k-££4.3k holding this year (added £100 a month plus reinvested the winnings) so still a great return.

doodles55 · 03/12/2024 10:21

TubeScreamer · 03/12/2024 07:21

£175 on FH - as good as it gets for me.

dcs 0 on £4000 each

Exactly the same amount here…
a mix of feeling okaaay and tut, why can’t I have won more… mixed emotions I think it’s described as…

fromdownwest · 03/12/2024 11:00

£150 on £21515 PB

S&S ISA £2832.76 in 3 months for the same holding

PB for longer-term growth is really not a viable option.

forgotactually · 03/12/2024 11:24

£75 on FH, but an overall rate of 5.35% over the year, so very happy with that.

ShyTed · 03/12/2024 12:04

Just worked out my interest and it was 5.6% which is really good!
Hoping for a good 2025 for everyone x

CheeseNcrackerz · 03/12/2024 12:06

Only £50 this month which is the worst performance all year.

Over whole year I've won £12150 on £50k holding though- not bad at all.

Igmum · 03/12/2024 12:12

Nothing this month for me. Nothing last month either. Clearly Mr Millions will be waiting for me in January Grin

Spaceracers · 03/12/2024 12:18

I went from thinking I would get nothing to not being able to sleep because I was going to win 10k... in the end it was £175 on full holdings.

Biggest win has been £600 but I've won every month - my overall rate 5.9% which is fantastic and so much better than last year,

Neddevine · 03/12/2024 12:36

Nothing for me this month....bit disappointed really. DH got £150...and always wins more than me!!

Big prize in January would be very nice.

spectaclereceptacle · 03/12/2024 12:46

£150 this month on FH.

I've won £1,625 this year on holdings of £42k-£50k which is approx 3.5%. That's less than a lot of other people but still OK as it's tax-free and I like the excitement each month!

livingonaprairie · 03/12/2024 12:54

Hi everybody, my first post on this thread as the first month I've been eligible. Have FH and got £175 which was nice - I was convinced I would get nothing!

wednesday32 · 03/12/2024 12:56

£300 on full holding this month. In total for the year I have won over £3K, so 6% return which I am happy with.

Agapornis · 03/12/2024 12:58

user9086572 · 03/12/2024 07:25

Surely all of the comments about low rates aren’t factoring in tax? For us we would get about 4% in the saving account which would then be taxed so anything over about 2.5% is winning. Used our isa allowance already this year

Varies hugely between people though, doesn't it. I'm on basic 20% rate and the first £1000 is tax free, so if I expect to get £1600 in PB a year (4.4% for me), I need to match that with £1750 (4.8% for me, £1600 after tax) in a taxed account. So it's 1.5% difference for you, but only 0.4% for me.

Ygraine · 03/12/2024 13:04

£225 for me this month, 4x £50 and a £25.

PrioritisePleasure24 · 03/12/2024 13:21

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2024 08:20

Yah. A girl looking up all Christmasy

A win after last 2mths of nothing

But I have done very well over the year on small holdings

Will work out the % later

£200

2 x £25
1x £50
1x 100

Very happy with that

Well done winners. Sorry for the losers

I really think you stole my luck😂 £200 in about 14 months for me, nothing in ten….

Well done @Blondeshavemorefun. I’m setting mine to reinvest next year!

fantasticoplastico · 03/12/2024 13:24

£200 here- my highest win yet. I booked a holiday yesterday so this pays for the flight and i'm
delighted.

Mozartinmyfanjo · 03/12/2024 13:25

Nothing, my first ever draw 😥

Happiestathome · 03/12/2024 13:37

@user9086572 i could only dream of filling up mine and my husband’s ISA each year, so for us we are not considering tax. This does make premium bonds a lot less likely to beat other rates sadly.

Whatthetrolley · 03/12/2024 14:13

Mozartinmyfanjo · 03/12/2024 13:25

Nothing, my first ever draw 😥

It took me 21 years to win my first prize with £100 PBs!

ScarlettSunset · 03/12/2024 14:31

Nothing for me this month. Hopefully I'll get a strong start to 2025 instead!

Well done to all the winners!

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