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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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northerncharm · 03/12/2024 07:51

I was just looking at the list of prizes, and I was confused by the 'value of bond' being separate to the 'total value of holding' column - I always thought that it was £1 per bond so if you have, say, £5000 of premium bonds it's like 5000 £1 raffle tickets. Is that not it? Are some individual bonds worth more?

ItsMintUpNorth · 03/12/2024 07:59

bluevelvetbox · 03/12/2024 07:35

£200 on FH. Happy with that.

Can anyone tell me how to work out the interest for the year.

Good luck to everyone today.

Prizes won / total amount held x100 Smile.

paranoidnamechanger · 03/12/2024 08:01

Nothing here on £5K. My total prizes are £100 for the year so maybe average for that small holding but I’m determined to get to a five figure sum of PB’s next year.

MillyVannily · 03/12/2024 08:03

£100 on full holding. Don't feel lucky.

SundayDread · 03/12/2024 08:09

£125 for DH fh
£50 for me fh
nothing for DD on a few grand

not our best month.

Aposterhasnoname · 03/12/2024 08:12

leafybrew · 03/12/2024 06:35

@Aposterhasnoname that's 4.1% - so not too bad.

Not unhappy with that at all

allmybooksarefromthelibrary · 03/12/2024 08:12

£125 for me (c £37k). My total return for the year is 2.5% which isn't very good at all (in fact, it is slightly less than that as I had more at the start of the year, but took some out).

JollyHostess101 · 03/12/2024 08:14

£250 on FH which is very nice and will help with the Christmas food shop!!

Hope those just waking up get good news!!

Combattingthemoaners · 03/12/2024 08:16

Big fat £0 for everyone in this house on a combined holding of 80 grand. Pretty rubbish!

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2024 08:20

Yah. A girl looking up all Christmasy

A win after last 2mths of nothing

But I have done very well over the year on small holdings

Will work out the % later

£200

2 x £25
1x £50
1x 100

Very happy with that

Well done winners. Sorry for the losers

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SinkingVoter · 03/12/2024 08:29

northerncharm · 03/12/2024 07:51

I was just looking at the list of prizes, and I was confused by the 'value of bond' being separate to the 'total value of holding' column - I always thought that it was £1 per bond so if you have, say, £5000 of premium bonds it's like 5000 £1 raffle tickets. Is that not it? Are some individual bonds worth more?

It’s essentially what you bought in that chunk I.e. you buy £5k, that will be the value of the bond, even though each individual bond number has the same value as any other

Hotafternoon · 03/12/2024 08:31

Bah Humbug! Nothing at all on almost FH. .When I looked at the big winner list yesterday, there was an exact holding to mine with £5,000. That was a few seconds of sudden hope until I saw it was a winner in Surrey and not Hampshire.

Can't complain, have won £1400 since January so was due to have a month with nothing I guess.

Roll on January.

hellswelshy · 03/12/2024 08:35

Nothing here on nearly £13k holdings. BUT I've won £1,675 over the whole year, so a return of...hmm...

hellswelshy · 03/12/2024 08:37

Probably more average of 12.5k over the year so is that 7%? 🤔

Rainbow321 · 03/12/2024 08:39

£225 on full holdings.
That's £1.175 total this year so not great.
Could someone tell me the % for the year . Thank you

Womblingmerrily · 03/12/2024 08:47

£50 this month which means 2024 is 3.1%, below average again but better than last year which was 2%

Womblingmerrily · 03/12/2024 08:48

@Rainbow321 I get 2.35%

What you've won this year (1175) divided by what your investment is (50,000) x 100 for percentage

Novaavon · 03/12/2024 08:52

Rainbow321 · 03/12/2024 08:39

£225 on full holdings.
That's £1.175 total this year so not great.
Could someone tell me the % for the year . Thank you

That's 2.3%. About the same as me. I'm disappointed but at least it's tax free.

bigdecisionstomake · 03/12/2024 08:57

£25 win for me this month. That gives me a total of £325 won for 2024 on a holding that averaged around £8K so an 'interest' rate of about 4.1%.

I'm happy with that on the basis there's always a chance of a big win 🙂

IDareSay · 03/12/2024 09:04

£0 for me on FH and £100 for DH on FH.
Not our best month by a long shot, but just worked out our annual return for 2024 to be 4.52% tax free so very happy with that (would need to get 5.65% in a savings account to match it, and no thrill of possibility of a big win!)

OublietteBravo · 03/12/2024 09:16

Nothing for me again. Haven’t won anything since July.

WeAreBorg · 03/12/2024 09:34

£100 on £35K. Have earned 1.86% interest over the year which is proof of my terrible luck

Congratulations to all the winners though!

ExitPursuedByABare · 03/12/2024 09:36

Bloody zilch on FH.

Outraged.

bobby81 · 03/12/2024 09:39

£100 on FH.
Have won £2550 over the year which I think is 5.1% so I’m pleased with that.
I love the excitement every month as well so will definitely keep my money in PB but can understand others wanting a guaranteed return.
Well done to all the winners this month, I’m already looking forward to January!!

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