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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Pudmyboy · 03/12/2024 07:04

Phase2 · 02/12/2024 22:09

@Pudmyboy try this link

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker/winners

Thank you, that works!

greengreyblue · 03/12/2024 07:05

Found you all. Highest prize ever! £225 on £30k. Lovely surprise at this time of year.

Elphamouche · 03/12/2024 07:06

£50 for DH. Which has doubled his holdings so happy days 😂 nothing for me.

KnutsfordCityLimits · 03/12/2024 07:08

£100 on £16k, same as last month. Strange mix of being pleased I won something and disappointed that it's not a bigger prize!

Shoobidowhop · 03/12/2024 07:12

Elphamouche · 03/12/2024 07:06

£50 for DH. Which has doubled his holdings so happy days 😂 nothing for me.

A great return!

Shoobidowhop · 03/12/2024 07:13

Nothing for me this month, on £450 for past 6 months holding about £15k which is ok

Pudmyboy · 03/12/2024 07:15

KnutsfordCityLimits · 03/12/2024 07:08

£100 on £16k, same as last month. Strange mix of being pleased I won something and disappointed that it's not a bigger prize!

I get you, I feel the same when I get a little win (still waiting for a big one!)

Phase2 · 03/12/2024 07:16

KnutsfordCityLimits · 03/12/2024 07:08

£100 on £16k, same as last month. Strange mix of being pleased I won something and disappointed that it's not a bigger prize!

Same here. I think it's the disappointment of not having been luckier. Won £100.

ItsMintUpNorth · 03/12/2024 07:17

Nothing for me on £4.5k but had £275 since January so I can't complain really as that's 6%.

TubeScreamer · 03/12/2024 07:21

£175 on FH - as good as it gets for me.

dcs 0 on £4000 each

Pudmyboy · 03/12/2024 07:22

Phase2 · 02/12/2024 22:09

@Pudmyboy try this link

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker/winners

Wow, I have only ever checked my holdings before now, it's an eye-opener to see just how many 'high value ' prizes there are, encouraging too in a strange way, because that must mean a higher chance of winning, say £50-£100K than the million, and there's a lot of £25k winners: stopped there as need to get up!

WobblyLondoner · 03/12/2024 07:23

£575 for me on full holdings - sweetens last month’s big fat zero!

WobblyLondoner · 03/12/2024 07:24

KnutsfordCityLimits · 03/12/2024 07:08

£100 on £16k, same as last month. Strange mix of being pleased I won something and disappointed that it's not a bigger prize!

Yes, well put!

user9086572 · 03/12/2024 07:25

Surely all of the comments about low rates aren’t factoring in tax? For us we would get about 4% in the saving account which would then be taxed so anything over about 2.5% is winning. Used our isa allowance already this year

evilharpy · 03/12/2024 07:29

Big fat nothing this month on full holding.

ChristmasEveNotChristmasSteve · 03/12/2024 07:30

£25 on full holdings and very disappointed. 😔

DogsAndBirds · 03/12/2024 07:35

Nothing for me on £4K - have had to take quite a lot out to pay for various things- but had £100 last month so can't complain too much. Nothing for DS this month who has about £1.5K - lucky sod usually wins most months and is running at about 10% returns.

bluevelvetbox · 03/12/2024 07:35

£200 on FH. Happy with that.

Can anyone tell me how to work out the interest for the year.

Good luck to everyone today.

Autumnpumpkin · 03/12/2024 07:37

£50 for us on £18k, this is our first month

TheOneWithUnagi · 03/12/2024 07:40

I'm happy with my £500 this month on just under £15k.

Overall it's been a good year and I've won £1075 in total (about 7.5% return)

Sprocketty · 03/12/2024 07:41

£25 on FH. Pretty rubbish for my last month on FH.

Novaavon · 03/12/2024 07:42

£125 on FH. That closes off the year at less than 2% interest.

TheOneWithUnagi · 03/12/2024 07:43

bluevelvetbox · 03/12/2024 07:35

£200 on FH. Happy with that.

Can anyone tell me how to work out the interest for the year.

Good luck to everyone today.

Divide your total prizes by £50k. Eg if you've won £1k that's 2%

Novaavon · 03/12/2024 07:45

Sorry, my post above should have said less than 3% interest. A bit disappointing.

h0rsewithn0name · 03/12/2024 07:50

£225 on FH between us, so finishing the year on 4.9%. I'm ok with that.

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