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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 03/12/2024 06:04

Nothing here.

InMySpareTime · 03/12/2024 06:05

Nothing on almost £10k holding. Never mind, I won last month.

leafybrew · 03/12/2024 06:09

Mornin' all - £75 win on 20k holdings - which is fine.

@JumpinJellyfish that is disappointing Sad Are you able to keep funds in until January for a second 'go'?

Well done to others on bigger winnings!

DuckBushCityLimit · 03/12/2024 06:14

Good month for us. I had my first win since January of £150 from £5k holdings. I had to spend everything on building work at the start of the year and have been dribbling money back in since then, so this is encouraging.

More excitingly, DD1 has her first ever win of £50 on the £500 that my mum bought for her a couple of years ago! Still nothing for DD2 on the same, hopefully her turn soon.

Minikievs · 03/12/2024 06:20

Minikievs · 02/12/2024 22:11

I think I've won £500!!!!! It's showing as automatic reinvestment on my blue app 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Nothing for the DC on it, we have £28k between us, £10k of it is mine!!!

I can't WAIT to see it pop up on the prize app 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤑🤑🤑

I've actually won £550 as an extra £50 has appeared on the prize app this morning.
Nothing for DC but £550 on my £10k is fab and I'm v pleased 😊
I'm a bit gutted that they're set to reinvest 😂
Can't update my spreadsheet to see my % for the year til I get to work!

sashagabadon · 03/12/2024 06:21

Nothing for me but £100 for my ds on about £3k. He also got £50 last month so doing ok!

Livebythecoast · 03/12/2024 06:26

2 X £50 for me on 20K. Last December's draw, I won £1000 ! Still, £100 is better than nothing 😁.

Driedonion · 03/12/2024 06:27

£150 on FH
total for year approximately 3.5%

CaveMum · 03/12/2024 06:27

£125 for me
£150 for DH
Both on FH

Not great, but better than last month when we won £150 between us! Will have to pop the numbers in my spreadsheet to see what our rate of return has been this year.

Hoolahoophop · 03/12/2024 06:29

£50 on fh for me. But disappointing this year on the whole.

Aposterhasnoname · 03/12/2024 06:31

£125 on just over £43,000forme.£1775 in total for the year.

leafybrew · 03/12/2024 06:35

@Aposterhasnoname that's 4.1% - so not too bad.

Hippywannabe · 03/12/2024 06:40

£275 here after my £600 plus win last month. Happy with that. I have been saving all wins in a separate account and this win means that the wins over the year have paid for a 10 night holiday in the Canaries in February for DH and I.

AprilShowerslastforHours · 03/12/2024 06:42

£725 here on about 49k. Am chuffed.

Trumpton · 03/12/2024 06:43

£125 for me £225 for DH both on nearly full holdings.

Justhereforthechristmasthreads · 03/12/2024 06:48

£100 for me on my £11k. Have won £425 in 2024 which is £100 more than 2023 when I had slightly more in

Well done all winners

Heatherbell1978 · 03/12/2024 06:53

I have FH but only £25k eligible for this draw due to when I deposited. £300! I'm chuffed. I had £20k in PB for years and the most I won was £100. Withdrew it and now back so that was a nice start...

DrMadelineMaxwell · 03/12/2024 06:54

Tricky to work out my rate of return as I'm still building my balance in bonds. But I've won 375 this year so a balance that began at 28k and has built to 35k through the year.
Still a disappointing return compared to the 6% I'm getting on my online saver through my bank.

clary · 03/12/2024 06:54

£175 for me on FH. A good year with a couple of big wins (1 x £1k and 1 x £500) so I am happy with that.

PrioritisePleasure24 · 03/12/2024 06:56

10th month of no win…. defo used my luck back in Feb. £4.2k so i’m not expected to win much i guess ( unless im @Blondeshavemorefun 😂)

Partner is doing well on his FH steady wins all year not awake yet though. to check this one.

QuantumPanic · 03/12/2024 06:57

Zilch here. I only put money in for the first time in November though, so this is the first draw for me.

Sadtosaythis · 03/12/2024 06:57

Nothing for me on almost 35k holding. It’s been a disappointing year.

WTFMartin · 03/12/2024 06:59

£175 for me on FH
£175 for DH on FH

not too bad.

Rapunzel91 · 03/12/2024 06:59

Nothing for me but I only have pennies. I’ve put in £1000 that will be drawn in the January draw so fingers crossed. Will check with DH how he did

Louloubelles · 03/12/2024 07:02

Total of £1350 in prizes for 3 x FH. Had a good 2 months after several rubbish months.

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