Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

[Spongebobette]

New Fred!

Wow. It's a shame this woman can't see that Yawn is exploiting her privacy for Yawn's own gain. Not only that but this woman is going to be part of a deception that attaches FLP products to PCOS and IVF implying they can help in some way. How is she going to feel when she becomes aware of Yawn's true colours, especially if she has isolated herself from people who may have disclosed some private stuff under false pretences? Yawn is the lowest of the low.

Also - you can see clearly her ‘business coaching’

host an evening showcasing products (that you’ve had to buy) with Prosecco (which you’ve had to buy)

use something very personal in your life to get some social media engagement and recruit off the back of it

A holiday to Cape Verde. Fantastic. If only this person had asked her what amazing holidays the FLP income has enabled her and her family to go on.

An Actual holiday. For the family. That you all can enjoy, make memories, relax, etc. Not one which requires you to spend every day in a windowless room doing ‘training’.

From memory and from many, many years on these threads and following Yawn I can recall a long weekend in Spain and that is it.

Meanwhile my J.O.B. has meant that I've had at least one family holiday abroad per year over that same time frame (with the exception of the covid year).

Yes that’s right

a weekend in Spain which served as a photo op and content for her socials

I’m still waiting for the tropical holiday or the cruise - surely she can even work her business in the nooks and crannies of time on an extended holiday if she wanted!

There have been several opportunities where she could have had some UK breaks tagged on to visits to downlines and potential victims ....but no, she's elected to drive some stupidly long round trips in a day, whereas if what she claims is true (money and time freedom) she and Mr Yawn could have extended the trips and had a week in Devon or Scotland.
Instead he gets the joys of being her unpaid chauffeur on a swift day trip. Mug.

To be fair, I imagine the pet care costs for that lot are astronomical if they want to take holidays.

I am surprised she doesn't do more day trips to create some different content though. It's very samey. My instagram is full of experiences and holidays and gigs this year and I only have a normal job to fund it.

Both her adult children live at home and her son had a dog walking business with his girlfriend so I’m sure they could manage!

Aside from the money needed for day trips to create more interesting content There are other problems. I think Mr Yawn is quietly working in a J.O.B so is only available for the odd dog walk. I don’t think she has many genuine long term friends so can’t really do anything with them (and wouldn’t have the cash anyway) and most of all she isn’t nearly as confident as she wants people to believe. I think it takes everything she’s got to step outside the thatch without Mr Yawn and without the FLP persona. That’s why she’s reorganising the manifesting armchairs in her thatched Titanic and using that for content.

Yes Mr Y is working all the hours god sends to prop up the myth that she’s a 6 figure earner

I think the dogs are definitely used as an excuse by Yawn as to why they don't go away for a weekend or any non FL holidays. Pretty sure the last time they both went on an FL trip she made a big deal about having to get several different people to look after the pets.

Have also noticed their daily dog walks are regularly earlier in the morning than what they were previously, which suggests to me that Mr Yawn has somewhere else to be at 8/9am!

As far as I can recall Mr Yawn featured much more in her posts at his desk, in the background during the working day, driving her everywhere, in the background of pics taken at events. I get the sense her content is mainly solo and housebound these days which is very challenging when the whole thing requires recruitment through selling an attractive lifestyle.

To top it off, the house is in need of some serious TLC and the white Rangey has been crushed so even the housebound backdrop to her millionaire lifestyle is giving the game away.

Time freedom, weight loss and woo cannot save her but Mr Yawn taking a second job in the evenings might (I should think she is virtually unemployable).

Noticeable, too, that no one in Yawn’s downline has an income from FL which they live on

they all have actual jobs or businesses or partners

even her ‘leadership group’ eg Speccie who went back to a real job a while back

Not sure about Scotbot but there’s no way she’s earning a full time income as a FBO

Scotbot is a bit of a mystery (and I'm blocked so she will remain a mystery to me). It's not clear if she works or has another income source but she must do. There is no way FLP pays for property in an expensive city and a recent new car. FLP is powered by legitimate employment, the very thing it denigrates.

Well she seems to be a burlesque dancer and teaches it in the evenings!

The other day they were "both working separately on their multiple income streams" and had met up for lunch at The Thatch. At the time I thought oh he's WFH today in his J.O.B

@Spongebobette ah yes you've spotted Scotbot's other pursuit. I wasn't sure whether to mention it here! She should stick with that and drop the scam.

I’m not sure the owners of Forever Living would approve - Rex certainly wouldn’t have. Perhaps that’s why she’s not mentioned if as a way to engage people

Ha! Rex was absolutely right to say that fraud, extortion and deception are only unacceptable if you are wearing nipple tassels at the time you're defrauding, extorting or deceiving. However if you are wearing hessian pants and being a nice compliant bot, go right ahead and do damage to people while passing the money up the pyramid to him (or whoever benefits now). What an example to us all he was.

Is Temple Spa an MLM? Just noticed the partner of a colleague is involved

I never know whether to say this- but yawn does not want me to start looking into her accounts. I actually wouldn’t as I go for much higher fraud- but I could do.
castle too.

It would be a public service

@Norma27 it would definitely be a public service. There is always the accounts of FLP UK if you get bored with Castle's parents doing funny things with their money or if Yawn's accounts wear out the subtraction button on your calculator!

Do it @Norma27 . It would be worth it for the amount of potential vulnerable victims that you'd save as Yawn is fucking ruthless when it comes to increasing her downline.

Look at how Yawn's milked her most recent sign-up's personal journey, implying that FL is the answer to all the related health and financial struggles that come with IVF.

I think it is, @Spongebobette though not sure if its the same hard sell recruitment as FL for example. Lots of parties, consultants get commission on sales etc.