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New Fred!

The beigest of beige. Let's do some fun maths:

She drove-slash-had Mr Yawn drive up to Leeds for it, and she said somewhere it cost £450 (plus photos I imagine). So let's imagine that she's already in hock for about £1000.

The basic cost for a Stan Store is $29 per month, plus the payment processor also takes a percentage of every transation.

She's done a one day graphic design course, so lets call that £250.

Then she's got the content to create (ho ho) itself which is her time.
She's also now offering a Fire HD10 as a lucky draw prize for people who join and share the group. It's a kid's basic tablet that doesn't even run Google apps so let's say it's either £150, or £0 because she found it in a drawer.

That's a running expenses total of about £1400.

So far she has 42 members outside of herself. If we remove the 10 or so bots who are already there via the 'buy a C9' offer, her mum and say 5 who are shilling to make up the numbers, she's taken a grand total of £594 before tax and company expenses.

And £594 will be as good as it gets because retaining people even if your content is good is, I understand, notoriously tricky. Even when cancelling isn't easy. But if you have nothing to say and no expertise who will still be partaking in month 2 or 3?

By Christmas the whole thing will be a distant memory and she will be trying to stitch FLP and the coaching together 'having decided to offer amazing bonus material to my team in my super successful wellness business'.

Fierce won't fare much better. Her insta page is trash with low engagement and comments from plain old weirdos. It's actually rather entertaining watching these idiots crash in real life.

Why in god's name does Fierce think for one second that anyone is going to part with £750 a month? And for what? Bloody clueless...

“So far she has 42 members outside of herself. If we remove the 10 or so bots who are already there via the 'buy a C9' offer, her mum and say 5 who are shilling to make up the numbers, she's taken a grand total of £594 before tax and company expenses.”

I doubt tax is paid. She’s special, y’know? Tax is for the little people.

I found in my junk mail an offer from Fierce for the chance to win a whole day of her company.

“It’s my Strategy and Sleepover session, and here’s where the magic really unfolds…

You get to spend an entire day (and night) with me, no distractions, no interruptions - just pure focus on YOU and your journey. ”

Can you imagine spending a whole day and night with Fierce? To be in with a chance, you just have to sign up for her Witchy Bollocks Workshop.

Also, I have never signed up to anything with Fierce directly. It’s been sent to my throwaway email that I used for Castle and Fierce’s academy thing, which Fierce walked away from (presumably with everyone’s contact details). Wonder if Castle a) agreed to that, b) sold the email list to her or c) is completely oblivious to data protection and d) has no idea how to protect IP.

@Shortpoet I got one of those fierce emails too and thought exactly the same about their complete lack of 'data protection'. Like you, then it's my dodgy company email address so I'm not too worried but it shows how scammy and unprofessional they are

It’s really poor isn’t it. Also if someone leaves a business, they don’t usually get to keep the potential client list. That belongs to the business which stayed with Castle.

What’s the betting Fierce just took it and Castle didn’t realise the implications?

This made me laugh:

”Some of my clients have told me that these immersive days feel like a year’s worth of coaching condensed into just one day. ”

I think a minute in Fierce’s company would feel like a year, so she’s probably not wrong there :)

It’s absolutely pathetic when your ‘content’ consists of a ‘declutttering masterclass’ and ‘manifesting money’

Has Nurse changed her user name on Insta again?

Yeah she changed it just after her honesty post, it's now miss first name last name.
She's also changed the name of her FB group, first name_coach.

Decluttering Masterclass. Oh how I laughed. Do you think she's going to do an actual demonstration and declutter some of that crap she has adorning every wall and free surface in The Thatch. It would honestly drive me bonkers, with all that junk about everywhere and 101 dogs knocking about she must spend her entire life when she's not online banging on about law of attraction dusting.

I had one small dog (Piedog sadly no longer with us) and whilst I miss him like crazy and would have him back yesterday, the dust and muck he generated was on another level! Her house, which being old by its nature will be dusty anyway, must be covered in it!

She’s never walked past a hanging straw heart without buying it

It seems Yawn has been enjoying a day off and has travelled to a famous Spa city to share short clips of gracious Georgian crescents (the result of other people attracting more abundance than she can perhaps?).

Today's message is don't forget to live for now which flies in the face of the LoA message that the present with all its reality is somewhat dangerous to accept and to attract abundance and manifest your best life you must have your head firmly stuck in the future. What she should really be doing is tidying out the under stairs cupboard to bring abundance into her life and perhaps twenty quid if she can sell the old half used tins of French Chic she uncovers.

I see the £22 charge has gone from being the reduced rate for those who are quick to sign up before the discount is removed to being the permanent price discounted from the previous fictional price of £44. This alone tells us no one is interested. I think today's day out is respite from the panic that is building as launch date approaches with almost no interest.

She claimed the other day that she’d been working furiously hard on her launch for weeks

but over the last few weeks has constantly claimed she only works a few hours a week

such transparent charlatanism

Yawn's latest post about giving away a largely incompatible bit of tech has been sitting on FB for 3 hours and has just five likes, four from FLP bots and one from some random dog person who doesn't look like she's in the market for coaching. No wonder Yawn needed a day out and some distraction from this disaster which clearly has no appeal to anyone beyond Scotbot and the like. I'm cringing for her, it's so obviously a dud.

Is it usual for an online information evening all about the Diamond Group to be running without input or mention from Yawn? Speccy has details up on her FB page, no takers at all.

I just don't get why they don't realise....

If the FL business is doing so well, why are all these bots launching other "businesses"?

Surely their downlines and prospects must ask themselves why?

Your millionaire mentor struggling to sell a £22 a month unlucky group, surely that would raise eyebrows.

She’s claiming to be ‘financially free with a 6 figure income’ again

And that is academy is her ‘passion project to give back to the world’

so why is she charging for it then?

Nurse is off again about manifestation.

It's all well and good when positive things happen because you wished it.

but all it does if victim blame people who have bad things happen. Awful.

Absolute rubbish. Can't believe her nose isn't bigger.🤣🤣

Yes - so smug when things are going well and you con in yourself it’s down to you attracting it

what happens when something goes wrong? Must be all your fault!

what’s all the rubbish about higher vibrations 🤪