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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

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SunflowerVibes · 19/08/2024 21:06

The Wig and Sleaze event looks utterly dire! Very strategic decision not to show the “crowds”. They really are the most slithering slimy scummy pair. Her replies to messages are so robotic and nonsensical - she’d give dodgy AI a run for its money! As for Wig’s Andrew Tate style pimp suit, seriously, just cringe and vom!!!

SunflowerVibes · 19/08/2024 21:08

Also, just uploading hours and hours of the uncharismatic scam lords droning on just seems to be the worst marketing strategy! Makes me miss the likes of Messiah, at least he ran his scam events with razzmatazz and good entertainment value! How is anyone falling for this utterly dull spectacle of boring nothingness?!!

SunflowerVibes · 19/08/2024 21:13

BangingOn · 18/08/2024 20:47

Catching up on Iron Bot, is the ‘comeback queen’ she’s raving about BBL or am I getting my bots confused? Whichever way, nobody should shilling magic beans with a 3 week old baby.

Sorry for multiple posts, 3 week baby mama is a whole hot mess -went down a mini rabbit hole, on her stories, she’s flexing the fact that her young (perhaps 7-9 year old) daughter is getting highlights on her hair - whaaaat?! Then on another, she states she’s back to her target weight of 7 stones 3 weeks post partum. Not even sure where to begin with that!!! Wouldn’t be surprised if she’s crediting mlm products.

PieonaBarm · 20/08/2024 09:52

Just had a sojourn into TikTok. Yawn is even more ridiculous on there than insta and fb. Mr Yawn gurning waving her manifestation book around and then she's banging on about touching her third eye (fnar 😂). She needs a job.

Sugarplum48 · 20/08/2024 12:15

What in all the things woo is Yawn banging on about now?? She states she manifested getting her husband and kids? Whattt? no love, you met him in a pub through mutual friends, then you mugged the poor bloked into marrying you then told him you were going to have kids weather he wanted them or not and got pregnant. Jesus she talks such bullshit and fyi Yawn, anything with the words "badass" or "side bizniz" in is a instant red flag. Get a grip you silly woman, oh and get a job ffs.

Angrymum22 · 20/08/2024 13:18

Yawn is offering her weight loss coaching for free as long as you buy one of the magic cleanse boxes, which from memory are £100+.
Can none of these idiots see that it’s an unscrupulous marketing ploy.
All you get is an hour a week of her droning on about how she lost 6.5st drinking aloe and eating sensibly. Now if she were to tell the truth, maybe she will when they have parted with their money, then many of them may actually loose weight successfully if they qualify for one of the weight loss drugs. Or splash out on a long weekend abroad for gastric band surgery ( the holiday abroad mentioned above actually coincided with the start of her weight loss journey and if I remember correctly she wasn’t very well on her return- funny that).

Sugarplum48 · 20/08/2024 13:23

She definitely had gastric surgery. It's ridiculously obvious to all she had it. She'll still be banging on about it from the grave whilst her gooner husband stands taking a pic whilst spouting "well she died thin", that was her last wish...

MLMsuperfan · 20/08/2024 14:26

Hopefully Wig and Sleaze will wager their return plane ticket in the Vegas casino and roll a zero.

CanadianJohn · 20/08/2024 17:21

I can't find anything at all about the "Vegas launch of the 'World changing project'" ... can anyone give me a link, or even a hint.

YouOKHun · 20/08/2024 17:50

@Angrymum22 I don't remember the holiday but I do think that in the latter part of 2021 there was some kind of catalyst which timed nicely with the New Year sales of weight loss products. I don't believe it was a stern talking to by the GP alone. People in the Yawnsville area have probably got a better idea than I'll ever have.

If she was so willing to edit her photos early on she was probably happy to edit her story of what kicked off successful weight loss. It certainly wasn't an FLP product that made the difference. It's very unfair to miss-sell the products and the business "opportunity" based on her fictional commercial success and her pretend reliance on product. If the news ever got out that she relied on some surgical or pharmaceutical assistance (if she did) then I think that would be a real problem for FLP because it would be hard for them to prove they didn't know, especially as FLP has a history of ignoring bots' lies to their financial advantage.

I also think she will be giving nutritional and exercise advice as a coach that she's not qualified to give. She will sell whatever she can to whoever will buy and she won't know or care whether it's dangerous for them physically or psychologically to spend a week starving themselves under the guise of "wellness".

In other news, did you see that the well known dental expert Headband is recommending we bin our fluoride toothpastes in favour of FLP Aloe Vera toothpaste with all its benefits?

ItWasnaMeGuv · 20/08/2024 20:33

What is going on with Nurse? It seems she is leaving this job, doesn't seem long since she started working there Hmm. Her previous job didn't last long, either. Is she starting somewhere else or going back to FL? Can't keep up.

deviantfeline · 20/08/2024 21:01

ItWasnaMeGuv · 20/08/2024 20:33

What is going on with Nurse? It seems she is leaving this job, doesn't seem long since she started working there Hmm. Her previous job didn't last long, either. Is she starting somewhere else or going back to FL? Can't keep up.

She's got a new nurse job because the current one was clearly too much like hard work.

She shelved the coaching until September so she could finish her book. She made herself accountable that it would be finished by end August... Funny, we get a blow by blow account of her day every day but not once has she mentioned sitting down to finish a chapter, do some proof reading, editing etc.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 21/08/2024 06:32

God help anyone experiencing a MH crisis in Nurse's area yesterday morning ....she was running 15 min late so wouldn't be there for the start of her duty shift.

She told us all this whilst filming her usual morning ramblings and straightening her hair.

I would say that the ability to prioritise is not one of her strengths 🫤

ticktock19 · 21/08/2024 07:57

@CanadianJohn - this is the company that Wig and Sleaze are involved in. I'm not sure why I did it but I listened to some of Sleazes lives from the event and it appears to be a multivitamin company combined with a diet and fitness app but held up by a good old crypto 'investment' scam. The false enthusiasm by the dodgy presenters and smattering of applause were very telling as to how empty that hall was

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
thetemptationofchocolate · 21/08/2024 10:17

It's an unfortunate font they've used for their company name isn't it?
A quick glance and I thought it said 'Bio Witless'.

ticktock19 · 21/08/2024 10:24

thetemptationofchocolate · 21/08/2024 10:17

It's an unfortunate font they've used for their company name isn't it?
A quick glance and I thought it said 'Bio Witless'.

😂😂

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/08/2024 10:50

I see Yawn has started describing her minions as 'clients' (Insta 'client reviews').
Given that FLP bots account for the vast majority of any 'purchases' and the money flowing up the pyramid, this is remarkably truthful of her...
So much for them being 'independent business owners/huntrepreneurs.

YouOKHun · 21/08/2024 11:58

I think Yawn should mention her £200k+ loan from HMRC on this post. Or perhaps she doesn't think her downlines would clap and cheer her?

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
CanadianJohn · 21/08/2024 13:06

Thanks for the info. Biolimitless describes itself "Revolutionizing health & wealth with advanced biotech, AI, and blockchain. " Sigh. How did blockchain get in there?

The internet and social media has a lot to answer for. When I was growing up this chiropractor fellow pushing D3 and zinc would just have been the local looney.

YouOKHun · 21/08/2024 14:29

Fierce says something big is happening in September. Another scam perhaps? Among all the crazy positivity of being a multimillionaire coach and entrepreneur and earth mother Fierce claims they are still "navigating the sale of our retreat venue and ex-home in Spain which means endless back and forth with lawyers and buyers". That is bullshit. If it's the property botwatchers found on AirBnB and/or some real estate agent's site then it's already sold and not by them. I assume they might have rented an apartment within the building or it was owned by a family member (the whole building or an apartment), but probably no link to ownership at all.

Fierce is just another unscrupulous grifter who honed her skills in FLP and has been scamming people ever since, but not successfully enough to pay her various creditors or buy a large villa in Spain.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/08/2024 15:12

Love the fact that Castle is warning people about fake profiles of her, saying that someone lost £5k to a crypto scam.
Can't have that when it would be so much better spent on a coaching/pyramid scam...

Angrymum22 · 21/08/2024 15:18

YouOKHun · 20/08/2024 17:50

@Angrymum22 I don't remember the holiday but I do think that in the latter part of 2021 there was some kind of catalyst which timed nicely with the New Year sales of weight loss products. I don't believe it was a stern talking to by the GP alone. People in the Yawnsville area have probably got a better idea than I'll ever have.

If she was so willing to edit her photos early on she was probably happy to edit her story of what kicked off successful weight loss. It certainly wasn't an FLP product that made the difference. It's very unfair to miss-sell the products and the business "opportunity" based on her fictional commercial success and her pretend reliance on product. If the news ever got out that she relied on some surgical or pharmaceutical assistance (if she did) then I think that would be a real problem for FLP because it would be hard for them to prove they didn't know, especially as FLP has a history of ignoring bots' lies to their financial advantage.

I also think she will be giving nutritional and exercise advice as a coach that she's not qualified to give. She will sell whatever she can to whoever will buy and she won't know or care whether it's dangerous for them physically or psychologically to spend a week starving themselves under the guise of "wellness".

In other news, did you see that the well known dental expert Headband is recommending we bin our fluoride toothpastes in favour of FLP Aloe Vera toothpaste with all its benefits?

Oh no. Headband has blocked me. As a dentist I could have had some real fun with her.
In the FL hey days, I saw a number of patients who were given bullshit information regarding fluoride toothpastes. Some were intelligent enough to double check with me before using the FL toothpaste.

I didn’t know about the product but gave them the usual speech about why we encourage the use of fluoride toothpaste.

Some patients came to our attention when after a couple of years use either they or their children showed signs of early decay. When it happens you automatically start to ask questions because the patient or parent is often devastated.

In fact a warning was sent out from professional forums to be aware. It never ceases to amaze me how people will trust a flaky friend with no professional qualifications over a professional with a degree in medicine or dentistry or dietetics who has studied for 3-5 yrs as an undergraduate and continues to study, through CPD, throughout their professional career. But there again, having worked with the general public for 40+ yrs, over 50% of them are below average intelligence and an easy target.

Just to add I’m not being judgemental but statistically correct. It is that 50% that are vulnerable and these companies exploit that lack of critical thinking.

Angrymum22 · 21/08/2024 15:41

For anyone who wants to irritate Headband this is a WHO statement re Fluoride in toothpastes classification as a medical drug to treat and prevent dental caries which is now considered a disease.
They did this to mitigate the increasing medical burden of the consequences of rapidly rising cases of dental decay globally ( we can thank Coca Cola for that one amongst other companies).
The biggest reason that children undergo general anaesthetics in the UK is for extraction of decayed teeth. Also the biggest reason for hospital admission for 0-19yr olds is tooth decay and associated infection.

cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/essential-medicines/2021-eml-expert-committee/applications-for-addition-of-new-medicines/a.14_fluoride-toothpaste.pdf?sfvrsn=4eb40f4c_4

ItWasnaMeGuv · 21/08/2024 16:14

YouOKHun · 21/08/2024 11:58

I think Yawn should mention her £200k+ loan from HMRC on this post. Or perhaps she doesn't think her downlines would clap and cheer her?

How bizarre (relating to the pic below your comment), who "claps and cheers" when a couple spend XX on a wedding, house or car? Anyone who qualifies for a loan to do any or all of these things can pay them back over a recommended period. Why has Yawn written this daft comment, I wonder?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/08/2024 16:16

Tell me about it @Angrymum22
I ended up telling my kids to use my (fluoride) toothpaste but squeeze a dose of the FLP shite down the plug hole so their mum would think they were using it (and she'd also be able to continue being her own best customer by buying the overpriced shite as frequently as before).
Our dentist is also a good friend and had warned against using the FLP gunk, especially for the kids. This earned her a cold shoulder from my ex, who spluttered about negative people and took herself to another surgery.
The most confusing thing for the kids when she moved out was no longer having to squeeze a ritual amount of FLP toothpaste down the drain before brushing their teeth or sneakily pour their morning shot of aloe jizz into the half empty mug of tea I'd always leave strategically placed on the breakfast table...

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