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New Fred

I wish she’d stop fiddling with her hair and touching her chin while filming herself

Yawn had upped her game and today believes she is Farah Fawcett. Take that 2jags!!

Can imagine the reaction of 2jags ex-colleagues, They'll be pissing themselves whilst watching her walking on social media. From sending people to prison to this.

I always find it hard to believe that 2Jags was a detective in the police. She just seems a little (I don't know) not the brightest bulb ? Maybe that's just the vibe of social media & I'm completely incorrect

Specsavers latest words of wisdom:

“Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.”

Perfect quote for those hoping they will have a successful MLM bizness! Or coaching in Nurse's case!

Castle has publically declare why her face has changed shape....

She had covid and lost 8lb.

Who knew covid could adjust your cheeks so dramatically 🤯 apparently loads of people messaged her that she looks different... Nothing to do with her reading it here.

I've got a close relative who is a quite unsuccessful life coach. After discussion, she's well able to see how MLMs and vanity publishing are scams... but she can't see the same dynamics in her own practise and she's paid goodness knows how much to various coaching-to-be-coach workshops. The trouble is, she does get clients: not enough for it to be properly financially viable, but just enough to keep the hope of building to more alive.

(Maybe I will eat my words when she goes multi-platinum with it and becomes the next influencer millionaire... but I'm not holding my breath.)

Castles latest live brags launching scamversity with 1273 members, and having a retention of 96%. Sounds amazing, except the scamversity members group only has 862 members.
Maybe castle should bring a maths expert in to do a maths gcse!

Nurse has got an interview next week, hopefully they don't come across her social media before then. Constantly moaning about your current job isn't exactly selling yourself for a new one!

She's also back on the collagen, according to her it tastes better if you put it in the fridge!
Does that mean it doesn't have the lovely fruity flavour that all forever bots claim it has?!

@DeliaDeetz I wonder if she's going to start dabbling in FL again with that post if she's going to be doing before and afters of her skin. Headband does those a lot and I always think her pics are actually a really bad advert for the products!

For some reason, whenever Yawn does her walk and talk stories all I see is “Brilliant Kid” from the Fast Show.

That’s what I think will happen as the ‘wellness’ angle will bolt nicely on to the side of the IVF coaching. I’m sure Speccy will be suggesting to Nurse that anyone about to embark upon IVF should do a C9 or whatever the other shite is ‘to prepare’ and then be drinking their body weight in Aloe and swallowing collagen daily and this would be another source of debt income stream for Nurse. Speccy probably has a grade 4 biology GCSE so can vouch for this being a good idea wellness wise. No need to worry about medical people who are just jealous that FLP can cure everything as well as curing debt. Anyone who has a successful outcome from IVF is going to need a flexible career too!

Keep an eye on Nurse’s niché and you will soon spot the snake oil even if there is no evidence of any customers (other than Nurse herself of course).

@Angrymum22 🤣. The rest of the time what springs to mind is that South African department store make-up lady taking swipes at others (if you remember her).

And of course, let us not forget that at HQ FLP has their very own Colin Hunt…

Yawn’s mis-spelling saying she ‘loves stationary’ is rather apt for a woman going nowhere (unless you count walking up and down hotel corridors).

FL bots have loved 'stationary' since they were first offered the bookies' pencil stubs that were given in return for paying through the nose to attend 'trainings'.

In reality, 'stationary' in terms of what they are actually achieving financially is a pipe dream for more than 95% of the poor saps.

Nurses socials are a disaster. It's just so basic. Why does she think that a closed FB group consisting of a rag tag bunch of randoms (mainly other coaches, her acquaintances and snake oil sellers and amusingly a sheep shearer in NZ) would have interest in her very specific form of 'coaching'. Why does she think that a insta feed full of moaning about her job, minute detail of her sleeping/eating/shopping/washing routines and blow by blow accounts of motorway trips will appeal to her client group? Certainly the constant gushy references to the child are going to be off putting.
What can she offer a client? Who knows other than 'she's done it before' and we know that she's said she succeeded because she was 'determined' (in comparison to all those other lazy fecks who aren't as bothered as her).
The whole thing is just 'playing at business'. Who is going to flock to her?

I have always thought that these MLM or coaching bots are basically ‘playing shop’

A nice little set of health claims from Nurse. Everyone should take collagen every day - really? Despite a complete lack of unbiased quality human study evidence that taking a collagen supplement will target the skin directly more than a balanced diet will. And she is giving her DS a daily dose of berry aloe drink for his nutrition, immune system, gut, hair. The only evidence I can see is that she is a mug.

She has also shared a pic of her DS asleep in bed and yes @deviantfeline it’s just a load of waffle isn’t it, the kind of running commentary about the day’s trivia that no one is interested in. Not a word about IVF. I think this is about finding a wellness angle for a renewed FLP endeavour.

I am furious at parents who do not protect their children’s privacy and anonymity and deliberately post photos of them in private moments

whilst claiming the child is their ‘number 1 priority’

surely someone like nurse had some Safeguarding training?

@Spongebobette She will absolutely have had safeguarding training in her role in the NHS and more than once. I can’t work out why she can’t see the problem with what she’s doing. I’d expect Headband to be especially clueless but Nurse should have more awareness than most given her job. She will have had (I hope) lots of privacy training as well. You’d have thought she’d have spotted the link.

Some of these parents are in for a shock when their children are teens with a very different perspective about being plastered all over FB. The junior Yawns are a case in point. I’ve got a 19 yo DS who doesn’t really use social media and would be very angry if I’d made the decision for him and shared a load of pics of him sleeping or on the loo (poor Turret 🙁) for his friends and future colleagues or employers to find! He’s not alone in that, a lot of his friends feel the same and are similarly vocal. Probably a reaction to the over-sharing of 2000-2010 when people were sharing things they definitely wouldn’t now…but not the bots, their children are too good an engagement opportunity to pass up - many of those bots are ex police and/or married/related to currently serving police which is even more unbelievable really (and slightly scary).

Their need for content and engagement trumps everything

such poor judgement and of course they have no compunction about lying about all sorts of things, big and small, either

MLMs have a terrible effect on people

PS the younger generation in my family (under 5s) have never had their image or name shared on any social media. The parents - who are very aware about things like face recognition- were very clear about that from the start and everyone in the family respects that. Occasionally you’ll see the back of their head in a photo, that’s it.

Nurse is really doing nothing to target her audience. She had a long week!! So had wine to destress which her potential clients won't be doing. It's so telling that she views her working week as done, most people consider their businesses work too. And the motivation 'what if this round of ivf doesn't work?' 'But my lovely what if it does!' No that's not helpful people go into it obviously hoping it will work but the reality is it doesn't always and people need to be mentally prepared for that too.

Her "motivational" quotes are just awful for anyone who might be struggling going through IVF

Indeed. I read those cloying quotes and thought "just not professional, is it, Nurse. Who the heck is going to pay you significant money to gush platitudes to them?"

It’s actually tone deaf and harmful imo to post stuff like that

I know someone who had 3 unsuccessful rounds of IVF and decided to stop and accept that they wouldn’t conceive. It was very hard and seeing ‘inspirational’ messages like Nurse’s would not have helped at all

she sees everything through the lens of her own experience and seems to lack the ability to zoom out and look at IVF with perspective and empathy