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Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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YouOKHun · 23/05/2024 19:09

New Fred

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YouOKHun · 03/06/2024 15:51

Public Service Announcement:

I have done Castle’s seven question quiz called “would you be an excellent coach?” so you don’t have to.

I’ve done it a number of times, each time adopting a new nom de plume, taking my inspiration from famous bots’ names. Each time I have answered a different combination of answers, ticking every box to appear like the ideal candidate or answering as if I have an antisocial personality disorder, and all the variations in between. Despite this laborious work Castle’s fiction factory has only generated two answers. Basically “you’d be brilliant. Pay me to tell you how you’d be brilliant” and “you’d be brilliant, but not until you’ve paid me to tell you how you’d be brilliant”.

Castle will be pleased with the engagement from former colleagues but I’m a bit disappointed that I’m not clearer about whether coaching is for me.

Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
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Spongebobette · 03/06/2024 16:27

Is there any combination of answers that generates the response ‘no, coaching isn’t for you’ ??

Spongebobette · 03/06/2024 16:32

YouOKHun · 03/06/2024 15:37

Could Nurse have used AI? I know “mom” is a regional thing in the UK but the use of “physicians” is definitely unusual. She could just have done a traditional copy and paste from a US based IVF coach having forgotten to check why they are not really a thing in the UK where a referral is made to psychological support before someone embarks on IVF in the NHS (a NICE guideline). I’m sure it’s more free form in the private sector but I bet they still offer properly qualified psychotherapists.

Anyway, I went along to her Insta to find out all about IVF coaching as I’d expect this would be discussed on an IVF coach’s social media. No, instead I’ve found out about her routine and getting her son out of bed and that she might go shopping this afternoon. This seems to be roughly the same content as before she was an IVF coach. I think she may have paid good money for the Academy course called “Being relatable on social media” but I do not want the boring bits of my life reflected back to me by having to listen to a blow by blow account of someone else’s day to day trivia.

I agree @ticktock19, this is just her own beacon of light to distract from a job she can’t really cope with and her uncertainty about life. If only she’d put her energies into examining the skills and experience she does have and how it might allow her to move into some role she can enjoy and doesn’t scare her. Even on the min wage rate part time she’d be quids in if it meant she could then drop the coaching academy and NWM.

This bloody academy she paid 5k to has kept her hooked on her dream - she’s clearly had zero success do they’ve helpfully suggested she rebrand several times and now refocus on a very narrow client base

they are rinsing her

YouOKHun · 03/06/2024 16:55

@Spongebobette I know you’re going to be surprised by this but even selecting the answers that should mean there are more red flags than a communist parade re me becoming a coach, the answer is still isn’t “you’re not suitable”. Funny that.

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Spongebobette · 03/06/2024 17:50

So the message is that anyone in the whole wide world, whatever their age, background, education, experience, personality or aptitude can be a coach?

soon we will be overrun with coaches

ticktock19 · 03/06/2024 18:28

I've just seen Castles insta stories- her face looks different, is it a filter, has she done something to it or is that how she's looked for a while. I rarely look at her insta so I may well have missed something

Wintersgirl · 03/06/2024 20:42

So if I typed in that I am a serial axe murderer it would still say I'd be an amazing coach?

ThisMeetingCouldHaveBeenAnEmail · 03/06/2024 21:47

I also just saw Castle on insta and she really does look like she's had fillers. If not it's a weird filter

Angrymum22 · 03/06/2024 21:59

Yes Castle has had her cheeks filled. I think she had them done in Spain last year but something went wrong, they ended up asymmetrical and I suspect she had them dissolved.
This time they seem to have put it in a better place but have use a bit too much so it looks like she has two massive zits on her face. Maybe just a bit inflamed and may settle. She doesn’t have naturally well defined cheek bones.

Spongebobette · 03/06/2024 22:17

She looks awful!!

MrsDilligaf · 04/06/2024 15:05

NotsureNurse is going to speak to her manager today...she'll probably quit. Shes been in this job since Feb. Honestly cheap post it notes have more sticking power than she does!

MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 04/06/2024 16:52

Nurse seems to genuinely believe she's been positive about this job!! Also the rebrand at weekend but she doesn't post anything to promote her business, I just don't get it. And yawns excited to get a blood test so ahe can show off there that she's not put weight on. She's doing a webinar again about how to be a manager but headband has been with her 10 years and isn't there yet, do they really not see how it all doesn't add up?!

YouOKHun · 04/06/2024 18:04

@MaybeItsJustTimeToStop the rebrand is just a chance to reignite the dream she has of being a successful coach, which is a goal board mirage with no plan of how she will get to it. You’d have thought the first step would at least be relevant SM content and a professional SM feed that doesn’t show her child or talk about the job she hates, wouldn’t you?!

I wonder who she thinks her audience is. It’s as if she is talking to a couple of friends (which may be the reality). She seems to assume that everyone is just like her; she started today’s Live (while straightening her hair) by saying something like ‘how is everyone finding being back?’. I think this is a reference to returning to school after the half term. Does it occur to her that it’s not a relevant question to many people? For example people who don’t have children and are perhaps going through IVF who don’t really want to hear about the relief of getting the little blighters off parents’ hands? People who don’t want a running commentary on being a parent? Is her child’s constant presence on her IVF coach SM the right thing (aside from the privacy issue), especially coupled with comments about children such as ‘you know what they’re like!’. Well no actually Nurse, they possibly don’t know but would dearly like to find out. She really hasn’t thought this through.

The only mercy is that she is so well hidden in her niche that no one will find her.

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Spongebobette · 04/06/2024 18:23

You misspelled nichè

YouOKHun · 04/06/2024 18:40

Wintersgirl · 03/06/2024 20:42

So if I typed in that I am a serial axe murderer it would still say I'd be an amazing coach?

Yes you would @Wintersgirl or at least you would still get through Castle’s stringent and razor sharp scrutiny if you were a serial axe murderer prepared to put down your weapon in order to get out your wallet and hand it to Castle. Without that last step you will simply have to make your way in the ‘Homicide Space’ without coaching.

Still on the subject of Castle who has clearly had some expensive cosmetic additions to her face, I laughed out loud at one of her posts which fell between posts hinting at her millionaire lifestyle, earnings claims and success claims all delivered with a slightly motionless (by expensively tweaked) face. In the post I saw she claimed to be a modest girl who has never been a spender! I wonder if she means she’s never been a spender of her own money, just other people’s?

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YouOKHun · 04/06/2024 18:48

Spongebobette · 04/06/2024 18:23

You misspelled nichè

Touché @Spongebobette (or should I say touchÉÉÉ?).

Düh, I’m sûch â föòl! I fàìlèd mý FranglaisÈ O Level.

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Spongebobette · 04/06/2024 18:58

It’s touchè

(don’t ask me to pronounce that 🤣)

YouOKHun · 04/06/2024 19:18

I can help you there @Spongebobette, it’s pronounced so it rhymes with “pooch” but MUST be said in your best West Midlands accent. If you are struggling with this pronunciation then think about how the lovechild of Catherine Deneuve and Noddy Holder might speak (and I just know you’ve already said this out loud once to test it out ;)!

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Spongebobette · 04/06/2024 19:57

If only Mumsnet allowed voice notes!

YouOKHun · 05/06/2024 09:43

@Spongebobette yes, if only!

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YouOKHun · 05/06/2024 11:24

One of FLP UK’s top “successful” bots was only days ago telling an audience of hopefuls at HQ that FLP will turn their lives around as it has done for her (very much talking in the present tense about her success). This was roughly the date that her latest accounts appeared at CH. Last year she had £22 (current assets less liabilities) this year …. Drum roll … she has £20. Isn’t it a bit disingenuous to convince a room full of people that they too can have it all when it doesn’t appear possible for the person doing the convincing. What about Mr Scamalopoulos and the others in charge? Presumably they know full well that the person on the stage is lying to the audience about what’s possible.

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Spongebobette · 05/06/2024 11:29

I have just watched a bit of Mr Scamopolous’ monthly update

if I had a drink every time he said excited or excitement I’d be very very drunk after 5 minutes

Spongebobette · 05/06/2024 11:32

YouOKHun · 05/06/2024 11:24

One of FLP UK’s top “successful” bots was only days ago telling an audience of hopefuls at HQ that FLP will turn their lives around as it has done for her (very much talking in the present tense about her success). This was roughly the date that her latest accounts appeared at CH. Last year she had £22 (current assets less liabilities) this year …. Drum roll … she has £20. Isn’t it a bit disingenuous to convince a room full of people that they too can have it all when it doesn’t appear possible for the person doing the convincing. What about Mr Scamalopoulos and the others in charge? Presumably they know full well that the person on the stage is lying to the audience about what’s possible.

I have the answer to how to achieve success, from Speccy. Pick the bones out of this word salad !

SEVEN DAY PLAN

Those who do not plan rarely stick to their plan , you have to stick to your plan of the making if you want to do better than many other people.
You need to be consistent, If you want to have good things.
An hour of planning can save you 10 hours of doing.

Let’s do this ladies xx

YouOKHun · 05/06/2024 12:04

Baffling. However I did distill this wisdom: Those who do not have a plan don’t stick to the plan they don’t have. Well, no shit Sherlock.

Step 1 of 7 day plan: learn to put words in the right order so that you give the impression you’ve understood Yawn’s pointless training from the night before. You should be able to sum up this training on the back of a beer mat or post-it note if you’ve got small enough writing to jot down ‘buy lots of collagen, take orders for collagen from another bot in the team, recruit anyone in your life who shows a flicker of vulnerability and/or a poor grasp of basic maths’.

Remember, an hour of pissing around with a whiteboard and a goal board (“planning for success”) will distract you from the fact you’re propping the whole thing up with your estate agency admin job/partner’s salary/child benefit/parent generosity/lottery win/loan/credit card/Only Fans etc.

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MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 05/06/2024 12:07

2jags has joined in with the walking videos 😂