Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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New Fred

Headband has been asked if the 300 watchers of the Live on Tuesday were all new people looking to join FLP and she has said 'yeah all [of the 300 viewers] are looking to work with us!!'.

Of course she's added a smiley emoji to the blatant lie, so that's OK then, it's not really a lie, it's positivity.

Yep, I was waiting for the being grateful that she was just delayed and thinking of the people involved in the accident but no, none of that enters her head. It's all about being positive in the worst possible circumstance of being delayed getting home.

It's actually a really telling bit of footage about her character. She is entirely self-centred but she is also tone deaf and not very bright if it doesn't occur to her that not mentioning the accident and banging on about gratitude and how great her life is even in the worst circumstances of being inconvenienced, is just completely inappropriate.

Surely some of her ardent followers must feel the same about how she spins someone else's misfortune or tragedy to be all about her?

I must admit I thought that was callous when the "lesson" wasn't being grateful you're all safe and unhurt or compassion for the people involved in the accident. But no, it's hey I'm ok I've got snacks and air-con

I seem to remember that her posts about attending her MiL's funeral were all about her outfit...

I'm constantly astounded by the incongruity of nurses Instagram name being nurseivfcoach and the entire daily content being pics and videos of her child's activities, how the kid is her world, or talking about her mundane laundry, food shop, how she hates her job and how well she slept.
How does she not realise how utterly tone deaf and irrelevant that is? How unprofessional and irrelevant when she says insta is her 'main business page'. Why does she think anyone going through that struggle might want to engage with that and find it useful and might encourage them to think that her coaching would help them?
I'm seriously boggled. The content hasn't changed between her being an FL hun, nail tech (sic), and the various coaching brands.
TBH it makes more sense when she does suddenly resurrect some random aloe gel platitudes.

It’s as though she’s forgotten that this is her business insta and she’s reverted to it being a daily diary

I drive a lot on motorways. When there is a delay due to an accident, I am so grateful it’s not me. I don’t grumble in the queue, I just wait patiently. It can’t be helped.

I just tell myself that there’s a poor soul who won’t be going home tonight.
Think on, Yawn, you shallow person.

@Contraryjane quite! Apparently one man was very seriously injured, enough to be taken to a large city hospital.

I suppose if we apply her ability to manifest her wonderful life and be positive in the face of extreme difficulty (waiting in traffic) then it must apply to the poor man in the accident. Did he bring it on himself and cause her challenging circumstances through a negative mindset? He's lucky that Yawn is able to attract the right things in her life and come out smiling full of gratitude. He wouldn't want that on his conscience would he?

Yawn really has told on herself with that, what a vapid shallow narcissist she is! I do hope the poor person makes a good recovery. I count my blessings each time I hear of accidents etc, life is so precarious.

It's her therapy isn't it @Spongebobette? She needs to post about nothing daily much more than she wants to be a coach.

When she's at her dressing table doing a Live she can be who she wants to be and imagine the audience she'd like to have. The coaching is just a way to legitimise an exercise in imagining a different life and being a different person. I get the sense she is quite solitary aside from family. It's the adult equivalent of dressing up in a princess dress and your mum's best high heels.

The worst thing that's happened to her is some FLP person getting their hands on her early on and encouraging her propensity to live inside her head, with the promise that thinking positively will lead to all the things she wants. She's lazy too so that idea of goalboards not action is very attractive. It's a shame because talking to yourself and having dreams and a dialogue in your head is very human, but it shouldn't cost you money, a great deal of money.

I wouldn't be surprised if we hear nothing of the coaching after the summer but hear daily about the contents of her fridge while she justifies to her audience (to herself) why she's changing direction or why the direction she thinks she wanted didn't happen.

If anyone ever wants to know what cognitive dissonance looks like, well, it looks like Nurse explaining herself on a Live.

And reading and rereading those dreadful Law of Attraction books as a sort of self hypnosis

Maybe yawn could self hypnosis herself into getting a consciousness and genuine personality

So, let’s talk about Headband bot, staggered she’s been a FL not for nigh on a decade as I thought she was a relative newbie. I don’t think she’s featured very much at big presentations and picking up the big toy cheques so fascinating she’s still slogging away. Does she have another job I wonder as other than botting, her page seems to just consist of over”sharenting”!

It’s a mystery isn’t it. Staying so relentlessly positive for 10 years with no obvious success seems…….peculiar

Yes, exactly that, the mind boggles! I imagine that her partner has a job that is able to support them so she’s content botting away under the illusion of making progress. If she sat down and made some calculations, I wonder if she’s breaking even? Also, she’s in Yawn’s team but interesting that she’s not greatly championed by her as she must be the longest standing teamie or close to it…

Today she’s offering free samples (which she’ll have had to pay for of course)

this is the sort of ‘activity’ the bots proudly report they are doing in Yawn’s Zoom meetings

Headband is feeling optimistic about FLP as she's confirmed when asked directly on FB that the 300 watching the information Live on Tuesday were all new recruits not present bots! Are you sure Headband?

When does an MLM victim become a perpetrator - the day they tell the first fib that they know goes against the reality. This mutant Sue Pollard is quite an accomplished and relaxed liar after over a decade of being in FLP. So that's something to show for c.4018 days of Colin Hunt-esque content and safeguarding breaches. It would be interesting to know what she's spent on product in that time and what she spent driving orders around to people or travelling to distant tents to pick up a certificate and a plastic bowling bag.

If I was her I'd keep right away from any profit and loss calculations at this stage as the reality of the numbers is going to make being a hashtag positive bizniz mum very tricky.

Ms Monie-Coutts 🤣

Mutant Sue Pollard is about accurate! 😂 She embodies toxic positivity with no emphasis on facts and figures.

As for her free samples, they’re hardly biting her hand off so that’s also quite telling about the demand or lack thereof.

Oh, I also saw the comment about the 300, what a brazen lie! I wonder how they come to a consensus between themselves to tell such lies - getting second hand embarrassment!

From what I've seen of her recruits Headband seems hunt for victims among some particularly vulnerable people and I think her DC's school is an important focus of her recruitment. She hasn't been on my radar very long but over the months it's very clear her recruits don't hang around long once they establish that no one they know is in the market for the products even at a discount and they just can't sustain being their own best customer.

I get the sense she sees herself as a big cheese in the local area and feels she's a bit of a Richard Branson. FLP offers her all the language she needs to look like a serious business woman (CEO, entrepreneur, my team, I have my own business, I'm going to a conference, I've been promoted etc etc), that's worth paying for! And she certainly is paying for it.

Without FLP she'd just be another person on an average wage with some added benefits and possibly with some savings and some job security.

I wonder what her partner thinks - of her ‘business’ and also of her relentless use of their son every single day on a public social media account

New Fred

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