Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Oh gosh those quotes are awful. As someone who has had 2 failed rounds of IVF I can assure you the problem wasn’t lack of positive thinking. I was 100% convinced it was going to work.
But these are the stats. It’s much more likely not to work.
I needed proper grief counselling when it didn’t. Not a pastel-coloured sticking plaster.

In terms of money, all of ours went on IVF (private as NHS service was so thin as to be non-existent). I wouldn’t have had spare for a coach as well. The only people who would have enough money for IVF AND a coach are going to be high-end and looking for something much more professional.

Those are sobering stats

‘never give up!’ Is NOT a realistic or helpful piece of advice from someone posing as an expert

Someone has posted a comment to her to that effect...... but her position remains the same - think positive!

Quite. I've looked up other IVF support coaches for comparison. Most are pretty awful but they do not ever reference their own successful journeys or their children. They certainly don't post about their laundry routine. Their focus is on their client and the support they give. No motivational quotes just straight up 'hey this is shit, I'm here to talk'
Shes got the angle totally wrong and I blame that ridiculous 'rinse and repeat' coaching cult she's now invested herself in given we all know how much money they've taken from her.

Yes me too

she’s leapt from the frying pan (Forever Living) into the fire (Coaching academy)

it’s all the same really, selling a dream and getting vulnerable people hooked and rinsing them

I agree. Nurse’s approach couldn’t be worse. The whole point of therapy, and let’s face it, this is what she is offering, is to put the person at the centre of things and keep your own story, opinions etc out of it. Self-disclosure is something used very sparingly and only to illustrate a therapeutic point. It’s not about YOU Nurse! However, Nurse’s coaching is using other people’s difficulties to shore up her own self esteem; it really is all about her.

She has no training and being a second rate MHN is not a cover-all for dealing with other people’s MH or psychologically testing situations outside her (probably) very specific role in the service she works in. Imagine being encouraged to be positive rather than being helped to build a rational resilience to all outcomes and then IVF not working out. Is she going to tell someone they just didn’t want it enough? Or will she just drop them at the point she can no longer cover up the negative reality with positive statements. She is a self-serving fool.

Thankfully not even her mother is interested anymore so hopefully she won’t get to tinker about with anyone’s mental health.

the so-called coaching academy she’s spent 5k on is worse than useless

they are supposed to be coaching her

you’d think they’d be a critical friend, asking questions and making her think through all her decisions about how she’s presenting her ‘niche coaching’

i think what’s happened is she’s told them she’s not getting any business and they said why not have a tighter focus and she’s chosen something close to her heart that she loves talking about - the fact she was successful with IVF is one of the few things in her life she’s succeeded at and it’s tied to her self esteem

and she’s not got any feedback or advice about the nature of what she’s posting

Oh my god her response to that comment! Yes you might get the same outcome regardless but you absolutely need to be prepared for how you will feel if it doesn't work. She claims she has her audience in mind buy she's oblivious, she really does just want an echo chamber doesn't she. I actually DM'd her a while back when she put something on about her son that really wasn't safe, written in a really nice way from a place of concern with a link to an article about why it wasn't safe. I just got back a snippy message about how she does her own research is and is happy with her choices regardless 🙄

@Spongebobette I went into the cult to see what the 'investment was. It's not £5k. Triple that for the basic stuff.
The 'self love' nonsense is another £xxx

Hmm in that case perhaps she IS being given good advice by her coaching academy but thinks she knows best 🤷‍♀️

Wow, really???

how on earth has she found that sort of money?

So true about the echo chamber

she wants people to ask her about her ‘journey’ and to congratulate her on her success

Fierce posting a comment from a client saying her coaching meant they be amended debt free and earned 1mil usd in ten days. Does anyone believe figures like that??

Mr Yawn has just 'rocked up' in a pick up truck...yawn is beside herself boasting

Must be his new company car.

I think Yawn gives the game away by admitting that she had no idea he was getting it. If it was a family purchase she would have had some sort of idea or input.

So what's happening with Uber?

Cryptic post about the fact she's lost 8lb in 4 days due to stress #keepstrong #moveforward etc

What I find interesting about this burst of showing off is that it shows up her recent “simple, pared back life free from the luxuries I used to want” rhetoric as being totally false. The reason for the simple dog walking life peppered with talk of tomorrow’s villa in the sun is that she simply hasn’t got a pot to piss in (well obviously there is the bot potty but you know what I mean!) so does not have the attraction tools needed. But one sniff of something that can imply the high spending life thanks to FLP and she’s right on it.

It’s so naff putting any purchase all over SM and I wonder whether these days it switches more people off than encourages them to aspire to try and follow her (even among those who aren’t questioning her honesty and sincerity).

It's very much second hand. Otherwise we'd all be party to the number plate . At least the first part would be on show

@OhMyGiddyAunt where are you seeing that post from Uber? I couldn’t see it on FB or Insta.

I think Castle has pulled the old Yawn trick of expanding a photo of herself to provide a weight loss contrast. I don’t have anything to say about her body obviously but the endless dishonest representations just to get engagement for her scam are irritating.

On her Facebook. The post from earlier this evening with a photo of Uber with her youngest DD

Ah thanks. I must be restricted on FB but I can now see the same post on Insta. I think that’s meant to be a positive post about being busy (not sure). Elsewhere she is saying her business is up ‘loads’ which I guess is as a result of short lived recruitment on the back of the collagen and the likes of Headband and Scotbot selling each other product.

I think it must be to do with the ex as there's some comments about not "letting the B grind you down" and someone else saying they've been through it too

I don't know why Yawn bothers, you can tell it's not a new model by the shape of the bodywork...

@OhMyGiddyAunt ah OK. I wonder if she owes someone a slice of the house value when it sells (which isn’t happening despite the reduction in price). She keeps saying she’s thrown herself back into FLP and I expect it’s more to do with having an expensive split than enthusiasm for FLP. I doubt it’s going to be able to finance her life in the way it once did even in her relatively ‘safe’ position. She has Moneypit-on-sea to manage too. She must be under a fair bit of pressure.