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Partner has walked out, how do I stand? Cohabiting

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bella140708 · 08/03/2024 14:23

I’m currently living with an ex partner who has basically walked out on myself and our 8 month old baby.
He is very narcissistic/suffers with addiction and controls everything. I’ve been living with him for five years.
He owns quite a successful company and owns the car, house we live in (asset of his company, all paid outright), he pays my wages and pays all the bills.
He is self employed so just takes dividends from the company, so on paper he looks like he is on minimum wage and threatening me that I’ll only get the minimum amount from CSA. Also how do I stand with the house etc. He’s leaving me with nothing, I’m basically homeless.
Can anyone shed any light or give me some advice please as I’m desperate
Thank you

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TwylaSands · 10/03/2024 11:17

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 10:22

No it’s not , you’ve completely missed my point and what I think . The point I’m making is we shouldn’t judge women who do not get married as a lot of the time it is not their fault. They go into a relationship with good intentions . Personally I think all women should be financially independent, married or not . I don’t think getting married makes someone a better person either.

But it is still a choice to get pregnant when not married and behave in a way (give up career) that makes you unable to support yourself should it fall apart.

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 11:28

TwylaSands · 10/03/2024 11:17

But it is still a choice to get pregnant when not married and behave in a way (give up career) that makes you unable to support yourself should it fall apart.

I agree it is a choice . Just as the choice is made when married to have kids when you cannot support them in the event of divorce . Unmarried women are more harshly judged and stigmatised .

Maxwellfatcat · 10/03/2024 11:31

You’d be in a better financial position after a divorce than just splitting up unmarried - 50/50 is the starting point in a divorce so the OP would have a claim on the house, savings and pension. As it stands she’s probably entitled to nothing.

StarlightLime · 10/03/2024 14:15

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 10:50

Yes , but what about married peoples choices ? People make the choice to get married knowing they have a chance of divorce , why have 2,3,4 kids that you likely can’t support on your own ? Most end up on benefits of some kind . Marriage isn’t the answer to it all and unmarried mothers get judged the most harshly. This is unfair.

She wouldn't be supporting them on her own, there'd be provision made in the divorce settlement. Not remotely the same thing.

Rosindub · 10/03/2024 14:17

iseeisee1 · 09/03/2024 21:07

BUT , most people get into relationships for other factors such as love . I am not stupid but only really found out in the past few years the legal financial implications of marriage. Some find out upon divorce . My point is we can’t just point the finger at the women . The men in these situations are real shits .

Married women scale back work and still find themselves fucked also and have to claim uc, even if they have the house or equity . Marriage isn’t the answer to it all . You can’t be unaware you might get divorced when you get married so why would women work part time or be a stay at home mum ? You wouldn’t judge these married women so harshly I expect.

I would judge them equally, married or not. Personal responsibility is not dependent on marital status.

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 14:41

StarlightLime · 10/03/2024 14:15

She wouldn't be supporting them on her own, there'd be provision made in the divorce settlement. Not remotely the same thing.

And income wise , then what ? These women end up on uc a lot of the time . Spousal maintenance is rare .

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 14:42

Rosindub · 10/03/2024 14:17

I would judge them equally, married or not. Personal responsibility is not dependent on marital status.

Least you judgement is equal then :) . Good to have the moral high ground .

MILTOBE · 10/03/2024 22:43

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 14:41

And income wise , then what ? These women end up on uc a lot of the time . Spousal maintenance is rare .

These women?

LemonRoll · 11/03/2024 07:06

And income wise , then what ? These women end up on uc a lot of the time . Spousal maintenance is rare

There is the option to get a job. That's how I support my dc.

StarlightLime · 11/03/2024 08:25

LemonRoll · 11/03/2024 07:06

And income wise , then what ? These women end up on uc a lot of the time . Spousal maintenance is rare

There is the option to get a job. That's how I support my dc.

Well, quite... The mindset that women are fragile little flowers who couldn't possibly be expected to actually work for a living is just 🤮

MiltonNorthern · 11/03/2024 08:34

iseeisee1 · 10/03/2024 14:41

And income wise , then what ? These women end up on uc a lot of the time . Spousal maintenance is rare .

Have you forgotten that women are allowed to have jobs these days?!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/03/2024 08:39

Most women do have jobs. However, some relationships break down because the couple come under great stress from having a child with a serious health condition or a developmental problem. It's far more likely to be the father who walks out in families like this, leaving the mother to cope on her own. Not everyone has family support. Finding affordable childcare in these circumstances and a sympathetic employer who will accept her taking a lot of time off to deal with issues relating to her child(ren) is not going to be easy. Having the legal right to stay in the family home and to get a share of her partner's assets/income would make life a lot easier while the child is young.

Just one reason why having a legally enforceable contract between parents/partners is a good idea in many circumstances.

PoppysMammy · 30/07/2024 22:14

Terribly sorry but no. By having his child, you have no rights other than to claim maintenance from him. This is scary, but the answer is unfortunately no. If he agrees to you staying in the house, then do while you look elsewhere. But your comments re his dependency would say to me to go sooner rather than later. You can get free financial and some legal advice via the CAB and benefits office. If he’s also paying you a wage, then you definitely need to speak to them as don’t want to be considered making yourself jobless and homeless.

Your child needs you to get appropriate help. Make
a life for the two of you. I’m 40 years on from leaving due to DV and whilst it was hard, I managed and my children were safe and loved.

GreatScruff · 31/07/2024 14:19

Most women do have jobs. However, some relationships break down because the couple come under great stress from having a child with a serious health condition or a developmental problem. It's far more likely to be the father who walks out in families like this, leaving the mother to cope on her own

But that isn't the situation that the Op is in. We can't 'what if' every post or posters are never going to get any advice.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/07/2024 15:57
  1. This thread is from the beginning of March.
  2. If you read the thread in order, I was replying to the post above mine, not to the OP.
Shadylady52 · 02/08/2024 12:24

Get some legal advice. Go to womans aid they will help you out. Empty his bank account if you can so you have money for you and child. Get a van Get all yours and child's stuff out whilst he's at work. See if a freind can store for you.

TheFormidableMrsC · 02/08/2024 14:53

Shadylady52 · 02/08/2024 12:24

Get some legal advice. Go to womans aid they will help you out. Empty his bank account if you can so you have money for you and child. Get a van Get all yours and child's stuff out whilst he's at work. See if a freind can store for you.

Clearing out somebody's bank account is theft.

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