Universal Credit Managed Migration - thread 2

[JanFebAndOnwards]

Not claiming any special knowledge myself (apart from am about to migrate in next couple of months!), but wanted to keep this going - will post link to the original thread next -) as it seemed to be helping and calming so many people.
Thanks for all valuable contributions everyone.

So it could be the effect of my backdated pay rise received in Nov? Work in a school so not huge at all!
Thanks though @Babyroobs

Had my meeting with work coach. They are utterly incapable of dealing with seasonal work. Despite my predicted earnings I'm deemed not in gainful employment and have to speak to them every week for next 12 weeks to say what I'm doing to get more work. Utter waste of my and his time. My income will increase now anyway because that's normal in my profession. I repeatedly said my challenge was warnings Nov-Feb. Didn't seem to register. No guidance or advice.

So UC = more stress.

Can anyone help this poster?

No universal credit statement showing.. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/5034396-no-universal-credit-statement-showing

I am not impressed with the discovery that that the transitional protection promise is not entirely true.

Nor am I. It’s in the small print isn’t it, that you get your protection, but then they can still take stuff off.

Im transferring next month to it and I’m lost with the whole system and dreading it. I think the general aim is to make you feel like a sub human if I am honest.

I deal with Uc a lot as part of my work and do feel it is a better system but this transitional protection I feel has been misleading. And as soon as the Uc amount goes up ( with annual increases) or additional elements added, it erodes anyway.

Have been looking at the gov website and it does mention any subsequent changes altering things, but nowhere does it say that you might not even begin with the same amount as you had previously.

You have the elements before deductions due to wages etc protected.

I've still not heard a thing. Nothing in my journal or to do list either.

I've just noticed they want me to take in bank statements for my husbands ISA. Why aren't they asking him? I have no access to it!

Because it's a joint account they will want to see all joint savings - does he have a separate appointment?

But @DragonFly98, it's not the mechanism which is relevant to my feeling of having been misled, it's the statements made on the govt website / in public comms:

Thus

So I guess it's the term entitlement which is misleading

@Babyroobs no! In fact two of the accts are solely in his name (we've always kept our own separate current accts) and ISAs can't be in joint names.

I guess the only option is for him to make an appointment to take the statements in then if he doesn't want you to.

https://revenuebenefits.org.uk/universal-credit/guidance/existing-tax-credit-claimants/managed-migration/calculating-the-transitional-element

This might help to explain it. The system is very complicated. The DWP calculates what entitlement you have to your legacy benefits on the day of migration. Then they calculate what entitlements to universal credit you would have on the day of migration. It is those figures that determine your Transitional Protection amount.

The 'Indicative Universal Credit amount' isn't necessarily the same as the first Universal Credit award amount. So the Transitional Protection amount could be higher or lower than the difference between your first UC award and your last TC award. Also, as @Babyroobs says, there is the difference between the 4 weekly and monthly cycles for TC and UC.

I agree it's very misleading, I was just explaining how TP is worked out.

Yes

Tax credits stopped last month & I know I’ll have to inform them in the new tax yr what our wages were.
Does anyone know if you have to tell them what you earned up to April (even though I haven’t claimed since Feb) or do I just tell them what we earned up until Feb?

I'm about to start the process to migrate to UC. I am a solo parent of a 13 & 11 yo. The 11yo receives HRC DLA. I work 24 hours a week. Will I be expected to increase my hours?

Hmm @Sherrycat, i received a final declaration form from Tax credits when they stopped and i moved to UC.. (This has all gone through because i owe them 89p in overpayment apparently)
Maybe give them a ring to verify?

If you claim the carers element on UC you will have no work requirements so can stay on the hours you are on. Carers element is different to carers allowance in that there is no earnings threshold. Make sure you put yourself down as your child's carer when you make the claim then it should be automatically added.

Shit, have I ballsed up. Do the tax credits stop as soon as you start filling in the UC form? I assumed there would be a submit button once I’d filled it all in. I’ve got a couple of things left to add yet, was going to time it for the end of March.

I am pretty sure that Tax Credits stop once your UC claim is submitted. So, it's not submitted whilst you are filling it all in but once you get to that final "submit claim" button, that's the crucial bit that stops your TCs.