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Universal Credit Managed Migration - thread 2

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JanFebAndOnwards · 18/01/2024 22:01

Not claiming any special knowledge myself (apart from am about to migrate in next couple of months!), but wanted to keep this going - will post link to the original thread next -) as it seemed to be helping and calming so many people.
Thanks for all valuable contributions everyone.

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migratingastruggle · 12/03/2024 19:36

Thanks for the reply @Babyroobs

Scaffoldingisugly · 12/03/2024 21:59

Received full council tax bill today.. Apparently on TC my SE wage shows as not UC minimum floor wage so support claim null and void. 4 dc and SE am going to have to consider moving across or pay 3k council tax. No notice but apparently I should have seen the news.... Was previously told UC wasn't yet set up for 4 x dc.

colouringindoors · 14/03/2024 19:14

Identity and Looking for work meeting tomorrow. Deep joy.

Teado · 14/03/2024 21:13

Hi, a quick question which I don’t think has been covered - apology if so. Does the UC end in 31/8/24 when the child bene ends? My DC is off to university in Sept. He’s 18. Will be 19 in Nov. Someone said it goes on until age 19.

I don’t qualify for UC for any other reason. No other kids, no disabilities etc.

Babyroobs · 14/03/2024 21:27

Teado · 14/03/2024 21:13

Hi, a quick question which I don’t think has been covered - apology if so. Does the UC end in 31/8/24 when the child bene ends? My DC is off to university in Sept. He’s 18. Will be 19 in Nov. Someone said it goes on until age 19.

I don’t qualify for UC for any other reason. No other kids, no disabilities etc.

Edited

Child element will likely cease when they leave school. Whether your Uc ends completely when the child element ceases will depend on earnings/ whether you have other kids etc.

Teado · 14/03/2024 21:42

Babyroobs · 14/03/2024 21:27

Child element will likely cease when they leave school. Whether your Uc ends completely when the child element ceases will depend on earnings/ whether you have other kids etc.

babyroobs Thank you! So helpful. No other kids and salary £26k annually so UC will likely end 31/8. Fair enough.

My assessment period is 23rd - 22nd of the month and I get paid my UC on 26th of the month. Will I get a payment on 26th Sept for the period 23rd Aug to 22nd Sept but pro rata ie 9 days worth?

colouringindoors · 15/03/2024 12:06

Well I just had my first UC appt. Checking through application, confurming identity. Honestly, the guy was really kind and explicitly told me how impressed he was with my 3 jobs. Meeting next work with specialist self employed work coach but not worried about that. A good start.

Nsws2015 · 16/03/2024 08:21

Can I join in and vent! I had my work commitments meeting the other day, they want me to work 30 hours a week, I already do 10 for my husband doing his paperwork and that's continuing as he is busy self employed so it takes some pressure off him and means he can relax in an evening. We have 2 teens and an almost 4 year old. I was stressed enough going for the meeting, now I'm stressing about being seen to be doing enough job hunting wise! I spent 3 hours out yesterday asking at places that have signs up for recruiting, and have been asked to send my cv to 1, another took my name & number and said the manager would give me a call when she comes in. Then I popped into one I had applied for but heard nothing and I have an interview this morning! I'm checking indeed/govjobs/Council website repeatedly for new jobs and have a few to apply for but I'm still worrying I'm not going to be seen as doing enough! Tbh I'm wondering if all this stress is even worth it and if I work that many hours are we even going to be entitled to anything?

Lougle · 16/03/2024 08:29

Nsws2015 · 16/03/2024 08:21

Can I join in and vent! I had my work commitments meeting the other day, they want me to work 30 hours a week, I already do 10 for my husband doing his paperwork and that's continuing as he is busy self employed so it takes some pressure off him and means he can relax in an evening. We have 2 teens and an almost 4 year old. I was stressed enough going for the meeting, now I'm stressing about being seen to be doing enough job hunting wise! I spent 3 hours out yesterday asking at places that have signs up for recruiting, and have been asked to send my cv to 1, another took my name & number and said the manager would give me a call when she comes in. Then I popped into one I had applied for but heard nothing and I have an interview this morning! I'm checking indeed/govjobs/Council website repeatedly for new jobs and have a few to apply for but I'm still worrying I'm not going to be seen as doing enough! Tbh I'm wondering if all this stress is even worth it and if I work that many hours are we even going to be entitled to anything?

"Tbh I'm wondering if all this stress is even worth it and if I work that many hours are we even going to be entitled to anything?"

That's the whole point. The claimant commitment is to use your best endeavours to get as much work as you can reasonably be expected to get, given your circumstances, to minimise the support that is needed by the State. For some people that means there is no commitment at all. For others, 35xNMW. Some in between.

Tiptoptum · 16/03/2024 11:07

I think a lot of the issues is that what UC think is a reasonable amount of work doesn’t necessarily tie in with what you might actually be able to do.

I say this as a single parent who works 30 hours (I have to migrate over soon) but I find that incredibly hard with my children to look after, but there seems to be no give on anything really.

RoseLion · 17/03/2024 13:52

Hi, would be really grateful for advice with claiming with more than one disabled child, we are managed migration and have to apply by 4th April. Did most of the form between us this morning but unsure what to put for caring responsibilities. I’m the main carer and don’t work, husband works full time. One child is high rate care, one medium. Between us over weekends, evening , mornings and through the night we both easily care for more than 35 hrs per week. However as both dla claims are paid to me, is it ok for us both to apply (putting one child each) or do I apply for both? Very confused as questions all seem very black and white without any nuance or space to explain. I can’t find anything much online. Thank you.

Lougle · 17/03/2024 14:26

@RoseLion you need to put you as the main carer for the children. That will stop you having any work commitments. Then you can declare that you are the carer for child A and DH is the carer for child B. As they both get Mid Rate Care+ , you will each be able to get the Carers element of the UC award.

RoseLion · 17/03/2024 15:23

Thank you Lougle, terrified of getting something wrong and complicating things!

Allyballybee445 · 17/03/2024 15:39

Just had my 3rd Universal Credit appointment on Friday and I am struggling more and more with each appointment.
Having to justify my health condition and why I am not seeing my GP regularly and also why I am not taking any prescription medication it is so tiring and I feel I am being judged.
The latest work coach as I see a different one each time has suggested I get support from my GP after 8 years and trying every medication possible I am not sure what more support the GP can offer me for 4 years I was taking so many prescription tablets I was a literal zombie unable to function or get out of bed it was so bad that this part of my life is a blur which included my mothers death.
The probability is I will only quality for a year so I am not sure if the extra stress is worth it.
Has any one got a positive experience of migrating with a health condition just to give me some hope things may get better.

Lougle · 17/03/2024 15:53

Allyballybee445 · 17/03/2024 15:39

Just had my 3rd Universal Credit appointment on Friday and I am struggling more and more with each appointment.
Having to justify my health condition and why I am not seeing my GP regularly and also why I am not taking any prescription medication it is so tiring and I feel I am being judged.
The latest work coach as I see a different one each time has suggested I get support from my GP after 8 years and trying every medication possible I am not sure what more support the GP can offer me for 4 years I was taking so many prescription tablets I was a literal zombie unable to function or get out of bed it was so bad that this part of my life is a blur which included my mothers death.
The probability is I will only quality for a year so I am not sure if the extra stress is worth it.
Has any one got a positive experience of migrating with a health condition just to give me some hope things may get better.

Edited

You need to get fit notes from your GP and declare that you can't work due to being ill. Then you will be sent a UC50 form to fill in about your illness. Then you will be assessed as either fit to work, having limited capability for work, or limited capability for work and work related activity.

You can't just say 'I don't work because I'm not well'.

Allyballybee445 · 17/03/2024 16:03

Lougle · 17/03/2024 15:53

You need to get fit notes from your GP and declare that you can't work due to being ill. Then you will be sent a UC50 form to fill in about your illness. Then you will be assessed as either fit to work, having limited capability for work, or limited capability for work and work related activity.

You can't just say 'I don't work because I'm not well'.

Fit notes have been consistent since migration started January 14th 2024 UC50 was initiated on day 1 it has already been filled in and returned mid February,

Lougle · 18/03/2024 06:44

It will take a while for them to process your form. Hopefully they'll then expect less contact.

Babyroobs · 18/03/2024 19:34

Tiptoptum · 16/03/2024 11:07

I think a lot of the issues is that what UC think is a reasonable amount of work doesn’t necessarily tie in with what you might actually be able to do.

I say this as a single parent who works 30 hours (I have to migrate over soon) but I find that incredibly hard with my children to look after, but there seems to be no give on anything really.

The number of hours that people are expected to work has been exceptionally low both on tax credits and Uc for many years. It is only very recently that the earnings thresholds are being raised significantly. The government have repeatedly stated there are not enough people working and paying tax to pay for those who aren't and need support. I don't think it will be any different if labour get in to power. I guess this is their way of trying to raise tax revenue. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that is the reality of what we face.

FloofyBird · 18/03/2024 22:03

We did our online forms to migrate recently. Husband was v. annoyed as they couldn't verify his ID (no idea why) so had to go in for an appt, missing work to do so (the irony!). I got told the JC would call me to take in proof of our savings but that was over a week ago and I haven't heard a thing. Not sure why we need to evidence it anyway, we'll get the transitional protection but nothing else.

DragonFly98 · 18/03/2024 22:16

FloofyBird · 18/03/2024 22:03

We did our online forms to migrate recently. Husband was v. annoyed as they couldn't verify his ID (no idea why) so had to go in for an appt, missing work to do so (the irony!). I got told the JC would call me to take in proof of our savings but that was over a week ago and I haven't heard a thing. Not sure why we need to evidence it anyway, we'll get the transitional protection but nothing else.

It's because they will make an appointment in about ten months time to check you haven't deprived yourself of the capital to remain on UC. So they need to know exactly how much savings you have. Also you only get TP for amounts above £16k not between £6k and £16k.

FloofyBird · 19/03/2024 18:50

That makes sense. They haven't called to make an appt though!

Teado · 19/03/2024 19:05

When I had an appointment they didn’t call
It was in the journal. It’s worth checking it weekly.

JanglyBeads · 21/03/2024 23:37

How come the amount I am going to get per month from UC is the same as the amount every four weeks I got under TCs (including TP)? A month does not equal four weeks.

Babyroobs · 22/03/2024 00:13

Transitional protection only makes up the amount before deductions so deductions for earnings can make it less than what you previously received on tax credits.

JanglyBeads · 22/03/2024 07:25

Oh fab....