Universal Credit Managed Migration - thread 2

[JanFebAndOnwards]

Not claiming any special knowledge myself (apart from am about to migrate in next couple of months!), but wanted to keep this going - will post link to the original thread next -) as it seemed to be helping and calming so many people.
Thanks for all valuable contributions everyone.

Yeah I'd gleaned some of that from this thread. SE is about 3/5 of my income, I have regular clients etc but it's quite seasonal. Oh well, it is what it is...

Silly question incoming, am sure this must have been covered here:
First UC payment - is it for four weeks/ a month or for however long since your last TC payment?
Thanks

A month

Happy to report my migration went smoothly despite being very worried about it! Having said that my claim is pretty straightforward-one child and living with family so no housing costs or childcare as family help with this. I received migration letter and applied the day after my tax credits went in, ID was confirmed via my government gateway and have just received my first statement- I am receiving the same as before because it includes transitional protection. I'm aware I'm very lucky and it's nowhere near as straightforward for others.

Thanks @trickortrickier . So there might be some excess payment of TC to pay back - is that the same as others have mentioned?

@JanglyBeads its not a month there is no set time in relation to tax credit payments. Its just five weeks from your UC claim date.

Hi @JanglyBeads - I think what you're asking is when you can expect to receive your first UC payment? They are paid monthly, but it will depend on when you actually applied for UC as to when you will receive your first payment and has nothing to do with when you used to get your payments for Tax Credits.

When you apply for UC, that day is considered to be the first day of your assessment period (AP). So, for example, if you applied for UC on 2nd March, your first AP will be from 2nd March - 1st April, and your payment date for UC would be 8th April. Your next AP will be 2nd April to 1st May, and the payment would be on 8th May, and so forth. Your payment date for UC will always be one week after each AP.

Thanks, what I meant was, is the payment for four weeks or five weeks? I know when am going to be paid as was sent the date quite early on in the process. Just wondering how much am likely to be paid (assuming at same rate as TC).

It's for neither four or five weeks it's for one calender month. Your assessment period runs for one calender month with payday a week after the last day of the assessment period. Payment is based on earnings during the monthly assessment period.

Yes it's a month for an assessment period. but UC guidance also states 5 weeks as the average time hence the use of the phrase "five week rule". You wait an assessment period plus one week for the first payment.

We have received our migration notice . DH works full time , I’m currently a SAHM , youngest child is 2 this year.

I am worried about making the claim and if I need a work assessment due to chronic tinnitus , and all the issues that brings . I hate it , 5 years in and it’s still as debilitating . Seems they want to know a lot about your health ?

(I am not work shy , worked for years before having children)

You would have no work commitments really until your child is 3 years old. If your tinnitus affects ability to work you could hand in sick notes, but really not sure you would be found not fit to do any kind of work with tinnitus to be honest.

I did the ID check on wednesday then on Friday morning received an invite to job centre. It doesn't say why though, we get zero in tax credits ATM and only did the migration because the deadline is looming and we've had 2 reminders.
Any ideas anyone?

I did my application. Felt like the implication is I'm cheating. Job centre meeting next week despite the fact I'm working three jobs. Utterly dehumanising.

Did the online ID go through ok ? Some people need to go into jobcentre to show ID. Does it say why you need to go? Are either of you self employed?

How could you get the implication they thought you were cheating from an online application ? It's worded the same for everyone.

Thank you this is helpful

Currently in the process of applying for DLA for my son .

Kinda feel overwhelmed with all the applications to be honest ! But I’m sure things will work out .

Don't be put off. The wording is very stark because they want to be as clear as possible. If you are working 3 jobs and they add up to more than the minimum amount of income required for your circumstances, you'll find that you don't get much contact at all.

DH works full time and I am a carer for our DC with SN. It was a bit of a pain at first because DH needs extra security checks due to being a victim of past identity theft, but otherwise it's been very smooth for us. We've been on UC for quite a while now and DH has had to visit the job centre once since identity checking, to hand in some evidence of our DD1's education. Otherwise, I've had to confirm my carers allowance twice. We had to update our rent amount last April. That's it.

Yes the online iD went through fine and no neither of us is self employed. I think I might phone the helpline tomorrow morning and see what they say

Sorry me again !

I need to apply by 30 April my next and should be last TC payment will be on 1 April (would have been due another one on 30th April )

When would be the best time to apply ? DH gets paid end of each month

Thanks .

Apply on the 2nd of April, you won't get any tax credit overpayment and your first UC payment will be 8th May.

If your DH is paid at the end of the month, this means there's no chance of getting 2 lots of wages in one assessment period.

You also only have an 8 day additional wait for your first payday from when you would normally get your tax credit payment.

You can still access a UC advance loan if you need one

Thank you so much ! x

I wonder if anyone has any advice. I have received my notice to migrate to UC, and need to do so by the beginning of May. I am not sure how it will work with transitional protection as I have a rental property. I work full time, and my husband is carer to our disabled child and does not work. He receives carer's allowance. We do not have any savings but do have our small flat which is rented out. Do anyone know how this works when migrating? Do we just enter the monthly rent we receive? Not sure how it would work with the yearly expenses that we incur with flat as I realise that UC works on a monthly basis so I am confused. Thank you for any help or guidance anyone may have.

So, not only will I be £50 a month worse off on UC once transitional protection ends. I also owe tax credits £300 for the first time ever, I assume this is the time between submitting my UC form and the job centre ID check. (I kept the last couple of TC payments aside as I knew they'd cock it up).

So two fails already from UC.

If you have more than 16k equity in the rental property then this will b disregarded for 12 months under transitional protection rules. If you still have the property after 12 months your Uc would end as you would be exceeding the capital limits. I don't think they even look at rental income ( oddly ) it's just about the capital/ equity in the property. Unbelievable really that on Tax credits this was ever allowed.