Universal Credit Managed Migration - thread 2

[JanFebAndOnwards]

Not claiming any special knowledge myself (apart from am about to migrate in next couple of months!), but wanted to keep this going - will post link to the original thread next -) as it seemed to be helping and calming so many people.
Thanks for all valuable contributions everyone.

If you are already in the support group of ESA then that support group should automatically go to Uc with you and give you the LCWRA element on your Uc claim. No one should be re-assessed unless they were due a re-assesment anyway.

UC50 form should be sent out after 29 days of handing in sick notes to UC so seems very early to receive this assuming you were not previously on ESA.

@imtryingtoleave I was not claiming ESA just child tax credits

@Babyroobs I was working till 2015 when due to ill health I had to stop I claimed ESA at the time and was placed in the LCW group during this time my mother passed away leaving me a sum of money which on top of some savings I already had put me over the savings limit and I stopped claiming I was only receiving the ESA for 10 months. I do get Adult disability payment as I am in Scotland. I was just a bit shaken by how fast the form arrived as I had read some forums were people had waited months before receiving one.

It is odd to receive it that quickly as it is usually 29 days of handing in sick notes that triggers the form being sent, some people do wait significantly longer. Maybe they are just getting them sent out sooner to people who are on PIP and are migrating over. Are they calling you in for any work search appointments whilst you are waiting to be assessed?

@Babyroobs I have to attend appointments once a month but I have no work search commitments and I was informed I can opt for phone appointments if this would be easier.

I did find this information on the gov.uk website

In most cases, WCA referrals will be considered from the 29th day following the start of the health spell. An immediate, day one WCA referral is made if the medical evidence provided indicates that the treatment or condition is one that can be treated as having:
limited capability for work (LCW)
limited capability for work and work-related activity (LCWRA)
a terminal illness

I am not sure if this is relevant as apart from the fit note and explaining how my illness affects me I did not provide any medical evidence.

Has anyone successfully switched over and knows what the process my letter is in the post now i currently get disability and have a 5 year old wondered if i have to visit appointments often as that will be a great stress 😩

If you are unable to work then when you switch to Uc you will need to hand in sick notes ( unless you already claim ESA ? ). You will then need to wait for the work capability process to be started to assess you for work capability. You will have some appointments, you would need to ask for them to be by phone.

I’ve started my application today. It was pretty straightforward and easy enough to do. I’m a single parent with one child working 30 hours a week. My identity was verified through my government gateway account so I’m hoping that means I don’t have to go for an interview but we’ll see. I’ve managed to complete everything on the “to do list” so far bar a receipt for my last childcare payment and a letter from my childcare provider. They will do that for me as soon as they can and I’ll get that uploaded.

The only difference that confused me slightly is the childcare costs section - tax credits usually just take an average weekly amount whereas universal credit just asked for my last payment. I’m not sure if I’ll have to upload that every month?

I think I may also have to apply for an advance as my universal credit payment will be about two weeks later from when my next tax credit payment would have been due and I’ll have a childcare bill to pay before then plus I basically live hand to mouth at the moment. I’ll update the thread with how it all goes incase it helps anyone else 🙂.

Yes each month you will need to upload receipts of childcare used during your Uc assessment period. You won't get paid the childcare element unless you do this.

what do i need ready for my application please i dont work due to illness. 1 child thanks

@Babyroobs re fit notes and day 29, it changed fairly recently. If the fit not held has more than 29 days left to run the referral can be made from day 1.

Aah ok that makes sense. Thanks.

A sick note ( if not already on ESA ), ID documents, tenancy agreement,

A note for all those Self employed 'seasonal' workers, which i didnt realize! (until today)

Am just completing my final TC declaration, for the period 6th April '23 until the day before my UC claim (beginning Jan in my case). I thought i'd have to work out the figures for that period, which would scupper me, as i'm currently in a quiet period work wise for 9 weeks or so...

But no, we have to work out the entire 12 months (tax year), divide that figure by 366 days (this year is a leap year) to have an average daily rate.. then times by the amount of days in your relevant TC award period.. much fairer as it takes into account quieter out of season work periods!!

I asked on my UC journal about the col payment and they got back to me in a couple of hours. I'm still eligible for it as I received tax credits for the Nov-Dec period.

Can I check what to expect when migrating regarding the journal/commitment/ongoing appointments and encouragement to increase my earnings? Should I expect a face-to-face appointment initially to confirm bank accounts etc?

Work part-time earning £750pm
Child on higher level care component of DLA
Savings above£16k, so I know I won't be eligible beyond the transition period

I can't realistically work more hours.

Thank you

@Jellykat that's good news

DH mostly does caring but he does a bit of self employed work as well. He only earns about 3k a year, and most of that goes back into the business but in the information we got from UC it said they will assume he earns above minimum wage even if he doesn't which seems unfair. Will this mean we don't get free school meals either? The paperwork sounds complicated as well. I'm wondering if it's worth him just giving it up completely, although it helps his mental health to do it. It's more of a hobby that pays for itself really.

I got a text today from HMRC saying CoL payment for those on tax credits would come 16th - 22nd of the month.

Got a migration letter for May.
Single mum of 3 (16/12/9) I work 27 hours (just dropped from 30) and will take home £1200 which I think leaves me clear from them endlessly being at me.

Im really worried, I’ve been on tax credits for 15 years, and although a pain, they seem easy by comparison. UC seems to be a lot of stuff, even though you are actually working and I’m stressing over sanctions.

I have saved for ages to get things done in my house, so I have just over 6k in savings, so I know I will be deducted money for that, but I find it all quite worrying.

I have heard so many bad things and so much about people who do perfectly reasonable hours being forced to find jobs doing more hours, just because it’s deemed “not enough”

You won't lose your TP unless you go under 16k and then over again. Otherwise it stays for 12 months.

Anyone know why the online application asks if you've lived in care?
It doesn't look like normal equality data gathering

It does say "we will use this information to improve universal credit"....

I think in Wales, theres a new support fund for young people leaving care, i wonder if theyre just checking thats not the case maybe?

Also is there no way to edit answers?

It asked about other income including child maintenance but then child maintenance was specifically excluded from the tick list of other possible sources of income - did I misread something?