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[MarchXX]

New Fred. Definitely this time!

80! 😁

Well done @MarchXX sorted now!

80 and no signs of the threads faltering, but many signs that MLM is faltering. The top bots are definitely struggling to stay in the game: Yawn having to send Mr Yawn back to work, one of the “Top 10” with £22 in her biz, Castle a laughing stock, propped up by her silly parents, 2Jags and her £80k which she says is profit and also turnover but which is likely to be fiction and many of the others traditionally followed here already sunk without trace or desperately hanging on in the MLM graveyard known as coaching.

Even those with plenty of money are not without the ability to fuck up once they step into the real world and make commercial/financial decisions outside MLM, e.g Uber.

I don’t fancy any of their chances if their MLM decides to shut up shop in what is an increasingly hostile environment.

That's a good point. Imagine if FL withdraws from the UK market. What would yawn and über do? They are high up in FL but they couldn't take their whole DL to a new MLM lock stock and barrel. They are so screwed if that happens.

80 already!!

Hoorah...80 blimey

The bots will definitely start struggling (if they aren't already) in 2024. Taking my own financial circumstances into account, we're looking at a £400 increase a month for our mortgage payment, so although we are reasonable earners, it will impact us massively.

Unfortunately, there are people who will be lured in by the promise of financial freedom, but when you're retailing a toothpaste for a tenner vs a pound in poundland, retailing is going to be hard, leaving the bizniz side of things....and frankly, you may as well just burn £20 notes (which you didn't earn because your business is flawed).

The bots surely must know they are on a hiding to nothing.

Yawn is not having Dec off at all. She along with that bunch of halfwits can't afford it.

The new FL country manager (I think they call him head of sales now) is absolutely frantic in the number of posts/ updates/ offers/ events, it’s dizzying

I think he must have been set a target of halting the slide in FL UK’s fortunes and it’s a short timescale

@Spongebobette yes, he’s a headless chicken isn’t he? Lots of noise and probably a lot of less smiley off-camera snapping at the heels of the likes of Yawn, her ex BFF, 2Jags, £22bot etc. He’d need to be a magician to turn things around when MLM is generally shrinking, people are more aware of MLM on the whole and even if they’re not aware they simply don’t have the money to speculate at the moment. Does he really think the very small audience of bewildered recruits will turn FLP UK’s fortunes around? The man’s deluded.

Yes I can imagine the top bots are receiving quite a lot of pressure from him

Love how when the bots are skint like Yawn it’s all about time is wealth 😂 they will try anything to hook people in. If the bots could afford a new Range Rover you bet your bottom dollar they would be buying one!

Yes none of them has had anything to show off for quite some time (exBFF has a new car, that’s the only one I can think of)

A friend of mine is on her third MLM after her previous two folded in the UK

First Pampered chef, then a cleaning cloths one. Now onto the next, whilst she's been rising through the ranks but wouldn't you be cautious if you've already had to jump ship twice "from your own business"
She's not gone down the FLP route so - what does that say about the UK situation if they are being shunned by MLM lovers?

So yawn is now saying that she was rich, fat and unhappy but is now thin, skint and happy. Funny how the tide turns eh!

Hang on she’s saying she’s skint?

Insights from our favourite Mindset Coach and mental health expert:

Exercise - get those endorphins going!
hire a coach
Set realistic goals
Learn from failure
Make time for you
Positive affirmations

How about:
Set realistic goals about whether you will be hired as a coach
When it’s clear it’s not a realistic option learn from your failure to do the right due diligence.
Don’t make so much time for you that you render yourself unable to activate yourself at all. Also check that your “me time” and your positive affirmations aren’t just a massive procrastination and avoidance exercise because your anxiety is high because you know in your heart that what you’re doing won’t work.
Be honest with yourself, have you been manipulated by the coach you hired who has gaslit you about your coaching abilities to get you to buy more and more courses.
Start listening to the voices of concern around you. They’re the ones who have your best interests at heart, not your upline coach.
Recognise you’ve fallen into exactly the same trap with the coaching as you did before in FLP and as you’ve fallen for FLP a second time, recognise that FLP is as toxic as it ever was.
A positive mindset is not healthy if it doesn’t allow you to recognise failure and, importantly, change your attitudes and behaviour.

I can’t help but wonder if the likes of Yawn are secretly hoping that Forever Fibbing will cease operations in the UK so she can save face and blame the company rather than admit that her alleged business has gone tits up and she’s spent years lying about it?

Where is Yawn claiming to be skint?

@BSintolerant I think it’s on FB, she says it’s all about “mental well-being” and she’s had the range rovers and the big house when she was fat, rich and unhappy, but now it’s all about the simple things in life and the time freedom. Yeah, she’s definitely positioning her straightened circumstances as a choice ahead of it going tits up.

As for time freedom, I don’t see that, I see a bot scrabbling to hold things together and be seen to be successful by any criteria they can clutch on to and having to continually go on about it on SM. She’s a slave to FLP. I wonder how much the last week has been about being ill and how much has been about crisis talks and crying into her pillow? Something’s afoot isn’t it?

But but but
she’s debt-free with residual income and could have retired years ago (but stay on because she just loves helping people!)

And also I have two fairly recent videos of her snarling at her detractors saying they’re envious because she is successful, happy and made for life and the detractors are unhappy people with no aspiration (for Range Rovers etc). Now it turns out she wasn’t happy. It’s all so confusing.

snarling is exactly the right word

Yawn has definitely been talking up the time freedom aspect more recently as opposed to it all being about the money.
She certainly seems to have plenty of time to document her life on Facebook!

Nurse's son is off school for a couple of days after his sickness bug over the weekend which means she's had to rearrange her whole diary apparently! Although I'm guessing it's not much effort to change the day you do your weekly shop or meet your mum/friends for coffee!

Hardly a ringing endorsement for the expensive immune boosting aloe gloop she makes him drink every day!

Exactly! When she started talking about aloe regularly again, she made a big deal about how neither of them really got sick because of it. Since then they both seems to have had some sort of cold etc every other week!

I had a look the other day to see what homeschool is now up to. She appears to be pretty much out of mlm now and in a small rented terrace. A far cry from the FLP days when she rented a large country house ! She was very active where I live when she was in FLP and I know a few people who have lost a lot of money thanks to her