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newaccountwhodis · 2023-01-13T11:38:26+00:00

Hi. New to the forum and PIP and am hoping some of the forum members can help me understand the claim process a little better, I applied for PIP in early December 2022. DWP told me that Capita had received my forms on December 9th. But i have not had a phone assessment scheduled yet. So i called Capita just to make sure everything was fine with my claim. They told me this morning that my claim "is in initial review" and that they "are requesting info from my medical contacts so they can do a Paper assessment". Is this a good/bad sign that my claim will be successful?

morningstar15 · 10/03/2023 11:05

@Babyroobs don't go with her, if there's no merit. As a rep the tribunal will be looking at you wondering why on earth she is there because you as a rep are in there with her. It'll be on you. This could be serious with the existing award. Unless you know what the tribunal are up to with how they word things - you won't pick up that the existing award is at risk. As a rep there there are lots of things you can say to protect the existing award. Not all tribunals will heed this though. Im afraid it absolutely needs an experienced rep (who reps at tribunals) to look over and to attend with her IF there's merit. You can't wing it. It won't be the appellant that gets a bashing off the panel - it'll be you. But she'll still lose and potentially lose the existing award. If there isn't an existing experienced rep that can look this over and attend - you need to withdraw representation and let her go alone.

Why? The panel 'may' take pity on her and explore scope for gaining points if there is any( it'll be fairly obvious from the papers) and leave the existing award. They may just ask questions to rule out more, and leave the existing award. It is a gamble. Not all panel members are that client focused. Some are vile, we know a fair decision won't happen. Others (most) are brilliant.

If we have a case with no merit, we would withdraw representation (if the appellant wishes to proceed). Generally as explained above they are more likely to win - with us no chance. But we are talking cases where there is at least something there.

Also. If there is merit and she proceeds. But doesn't get the fair decision, or loses existing points. We'd (with her consent) be requesting the Record of Proceedings and Statement of Reasons. Once received we'd then be drawing up and submitting a Permission to Appeal - providing we've identified errors of law. So hopefully it can then go back to first tier for a fresh appeal. Unless as a service you have that level of expertise - don't touch it. Refer it somewhere where there is that expertise or withdraw rep. You don't wanna be losing her the award.

Shebaduke · 10/03/2023 15:26

Hi amy ive just had a video PIP assesement and had a txt to say they had my report so hoping i will hear soon to

mrsfeatherbottom · 10/03/2023 15:35

I just phoned them and they said they haven't got my report yet - the assessment was on 23rd Feb. Seems odd when some of you seem to have them submitted so quickly. Will just have to wait.

Shebaduke · 10/03/2023 15:52

Oh i feel i havent done very well now if theyve had my report the same day

moonpixel · 10/03/2023 16:21

Shebaduke · 10/03/2023 15:52

Oh i feel i havent done very well now if theyve had my report the same day

That just means the assessor is on top of their paperwork, it's sent over electronically.

moonpixel · 10/03/2023 16:21

mrsfeatherbottom · 10/03/2023 15:35

I just phoned them and they said they haven't got my report yet - the assessment was on 23rd Feb. Seems odd when some of you seem to have them submitted so quickly. Will just have to wait.

They will have it. Are they confusing it with your award notice?

mammaov3 · 10/03/2023 16:55

i wouldn't worry about it i had txt same day to say they have received my report doesn't mean its bad news and it can still take 6 weeks for a decision i was told but mine was a review assessment not new claim.

mrsfeatherbottom · 10/03/2023 16:59

She said that they have up to 4 weeks to submit the reports. I guess different people have different systems - my person must wait until she has loads to submit all at once.

mammaov3 · 10/03/2023 18:33

@mrsfeatherbottom so have you not had a txt message from dwp to say they have received your report from assessors? i do think its just a thing some are getting sent to dwp quite quickly and others days or weeks 😕 🤔 but i don't think it means decisions would be made quiker the earlier they get reports.

mammaov3 · 10/03/2023 18:36

@mrsfeatherbottom also is yours a new claim for pip or review? maybe its different that way 🤔

Babyroobs · 10/03/2023 18:52

morningstar15 · 10/03/2023 11:05

@Babyroobs don't go with her, if there's no merit. As a rep the tribunal will be looking at you wondering why on earth she is there because you as a rep are in there with her. It'll be on you. This could be serious with the existing award. Unless you know what the tribunal are up to with how they word things - you won't pick up that the existing award is at risk. As a rep there there are lots of things you can say to protect the existing award. Not all tribunals will heed this though. Im afraid it absolutely needs an experienced rep (who reps at tribunals) to look over and to attend with her IF there's merit. You can't wing it. It won't be the appellant that gets a bashing off the panel - it'll be you. But she'll still lose and potentially lose the existing award. If there isn't an existing experienced rep that can look this over and attend - you need to withdraw representation and let her go alone.

Why? The panel 'may' take pity on her and explore scope for gaining points if there is any( it'll be fairly obvious from the papers) and leave the existing award. They may just ask questions to rule out more, and leave the existing award. It is a gamble. Not all panel members are that client focused. Some are vile, we know a fair decision won't happen. Others (most) are brilliant.

If we have a case with no merit, we would withdraw representation (if the appellant wishes to proceed). Generally as explained above they are more likely to win - with us no chance. But we are talking cases where there is at least something there.

Also. If there is merit and she proceeds. But doesn't get the fair decision, or loses existing points. We'd (with her consent) be requesting the Record of Proceedings and Statement of Reasons. Once received we'd then be drawing up and submitting a Permission to Appeal - providing we've identified errors of law. So hopefully it can then go back to first tier for a fresh appeal. Unless as a service you have that level of expertise - don't touch it. Refer it somewhere where there is that expertise or withdraw rep. You don't wanna be losing her the award.

I did go with her. the person from CAB that did the submission was not able to go with her. She needed support so I went with her. I wasn't trying to wing anything. I didn't get any bashing off the panel.

Babyroobs · 10/03/2023 18:55

Babyroobs · 10/03/2023 18:52

I did go with her. the person from CAB that did the submission was not able to go with her. She needed support so I went with her. I wasn't trying to wing anything. I didn't get any bashing off the panel.

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And I am not her representative.

mrsfeatherbottom · 10/03/2023 19:03

mammaov3 · 10/03/2023 18:36

@mrsfeatherbottom also is yours a new claim for pip or review? maybe its different that way 🤔

New claim. The woman did say that I would get a text when they got it and to ring back them and they would send out a copy.

mammaov3 · 10/03/2023 19:31

@mrsfeatherbottom ah okay mine was a review so maybe thats why mine was sent to dwp same day or maybe im wrong , i will have to keep ringing dwp for my report as they refused to send it out to me yesterday saying i can't have it until i get my decision 🙄

eatdrinkandbemerry · 10/03/2023 21:12

It's usually a good sign that they have enough evidence to make a decision.

Shebaduke · 11/03/2023 06:51

To mammaov3
thankyou for the replies yes mine was a review video assesment did you have an award and if you did how long after the txt to say they had received your report x

mammaov3 · 11/03/2023 09:51

@Shebaduke mine was a phone call was yours a new claim or review assessment ? mine was a review and i haven't hered anything since i got that txt same day as assessment, as i put in the other posts i did ring DWP Thursday to get a copy of the assessors report they refused me it not sure why, they just seid i have to wait untill i get my new award decision letter 🙄

readingisgreat · 11/03/2023 16:26

Mine is review.

Had telephone review call on Tuesday 21st February.
Received a text from DWP on Wednesday 22nd Februrary saying they had received the report from the health professional but it may take up to 6 weeks for them to make a decision.

2 weeks and 3 days later and I am still waiting for the outcome🙄

mammaov3 · 11/03/2023 17:28

From hearing from friends and some family who received a decision quick has been bad news for them say hearing after 2 weeks or so getting a decision, so im actually hoping i don't hear to soon 😅 but i also do no of a couple of ppl who have received a decision quick and been possative news

Donnagl · 13/03/2023 11:03

Hi has anyone had an assement on the 28th of Feb and still waiting for a txt or has anyone been awarded without a txt thanx

jizzlord · 13/03/2023 11:22

Does any one know how long reviews are taking atm? DP's forms were sent and received last February and over a year later he just keeps getting 'we have your forms' texts. It seems a long time.

If his rate changes will it be backdated to the date that the forms were received or the date they finally get round to looking at it?

Donnagl · 13/03/2023 13:07

I had my phone assessment on 28th I not had they received my report message or anything it's been 2 weeks tomorrow I ain't holding out much hope at this rate

TheShellBeach · 13/03/2023 13:43

jizzlord · 13/03/2023 11:22

Does any one know how long reviews are taking atm? DP's forms were sent and received last February and over a year later he just keeps getting 'we have your forms' texts. It seems a long time.

If his rate changes will it be backdated to the date that the forms were received or the date they finally get round to looking at it?

Hi - it'll be backdated to when they received the forms. Hope you get news soon. Mine took nearly a year, too - but the back pay was nice when it finally arrived.

TheShellBeach · 13/03/2023 13:45

Donnagl · 13/03/2023 13:07

I had my phone assessment on 28th I not had they received my report message or anything it's been 2 weeks tomorrow I ain't holding out much hope at this rate

Don't worry about that. Some assessors are quicker than others at getting their paperwork out.

And remember, it isn't the person who assessed you who makes the decision. It can take several weeks for the decision maker to write to you with their award (or not).

Shebaduke · 13/03/2023 14:25

Hi i had my video assesment last wednesdsy txt on thursdsy to say dwp had recieved the report and it would be 6 weeks before i hear i was asked if i was on sociol media and do i work im sure being able to work 2 days a week has gone against me has anyone else had a similar experience