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MLM Bot Watch 46 - Lies, damn lies, and attraction marketing

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 31/01/2019 21:16

The continuing crusade to expose the underhand tactics used to lure (mainly) women into exploitative schemes using the lure of 'financial independence'.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 10:22

Ah yes the old 'business launch/pamper party' trick.

When a bot is conned into forking out £200 for the 'business in a box', they are told that it's a win-win situation, as they will make a profit (albeit small) from the sale of the contents.

However, once it's bought, they are told that they have to use the products themselves ("you can't properly represent the products if you don't use them yourself"), or give them out to potential customers to try out ("they'll love them so much they'll keep on ordering them).

The hapless bot therefore starts 200 quid in the hole.

They are then told that 'launching the biz properly' involves a pamper party. They are encouraged to buy an extravagant amount of stock to meet the bumper demand that this will generate.

The bot also has to lay on a spread for the guests (and the pressure is for it to be a decent one, in order to make a good impression).

At the party, the bot then has to demonstrate every product (thus making at leat one package of each unsaleable).

The outcome will be, at best, that the guests will feel obliged to make a 'sympathy purchase', but the products are so grossly overpriced that it will be the cheapest item, such as a lip balm.

By this stage, the bot is several hundred quid in the red, right st the start of their 'Forever journey', but their upline will wax lyrical about what a great success it all was, and that the money will be recouped easily thanks to this initial investment.

Then come the trainings, success days, weekend events and motivational books, DVDs and other expenditure that are crucial to bringing the biz to the next level.

The reality is, whatever the bot does, they will not be making any money, let alone recouping the original losses. With any luck, they will decide that it's not working for them, and leave, putting it down to experience. In many cases though, the manipulation, love-bombing and brainwashing techniques deployed at the 'company events' have blinded the bot to the fact that they are not making any money, and membership of the cult becomes an end in itself. Anyone trying to burst this self-destructive bubble becomes a jealous hater who doesn't want you to succeed/live your dream.

How the company & uplines must rub their hands when they hook one of the latter...

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Whiterangey · 03/02/2019 10:34

Has Castle qualified? I haven't seen anything from her.

Talking of castle, in a few weeks we will be living in a non EU country. Castle is living in an EU country. How will that affect her right to stay? How would that affect taxes and her company in general given that she owes a director's loan?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 10:51

Nothing so far from Castle, family or BFF.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 10:58

My bad- scrolling back, BFF has 'qualified for a share of the company's profits', but no hint of what level.

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Paddy1234 · 03/02/2019 12:16

Welshies accounts are due at end of March

  1. Big directors loan
  2. Spending money hand over fist on new house
  3. Vast decrease in income
Equals interesting reading #remortgage house or sell - that's the question
Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 12:42

Might this partly explain why she's so desperately trying to chisel over the price of the windows?

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BSintolerant · 03/02/2019 15:09

Welsh Rarebot may well end up paying the window fitter's costs of having a solicitor writing her a letter asking her to delete her defamatory posts and to sign an undertaking not to repeat such defamatory comments again (or else...).

Paddy1234 · 03/02/2019 15:21

Ok you win

Welsh Rarebot 😂

Spongebobette · 03/02/2019 17:28

Nice one @BSintolerant!

Whiterangey · 03/02/2019 17:40

Definitely the best bot name ever.

Spongebobette · 03/02/2019 17:58

How much profit does a base grade bot make on an Aloe lip balm? Does anyone know?

thenextsmallthing · 03/02/2019 18:58

Can I guess? I'm guessing 75p

Paddy1234 · 03/02/2019 19:16

I don't think Yawn bff has qualified for a CB cheque this year
Northern bot has put up her email and it says 1.5kcc and Level 1 Chairmans bonus
Yawn bff just says 2.5kcc without any mention of Chairmans bonus

Paddy1234 · 03/02/2019 19:19

Ah just read down - you already knew!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 19:21

My OH might sell two of those and, on a good day, a bottle of gloop, for a full Sunday at a school fayre. Any suggestion that this was a poor return for missing out on the kids' activities for the day was met with accusations of negativity and unsupportiveness (despite the lifts, petrol & helping cart the ridiculously overblown stall, replete with expensive banners, to the most remote corner of the hall/playground)...

It's so far from the promised reality of the products 'selling themselves' that it's comical if you are not having to deal with the consequences.

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Spongebobette · 03/02/2019 19:47

Lots of bottom bots are ‘challenging themselves’ or ‘being challenged’ to sell 50 or 100 lip balms

Which they’ll then post to the buyer

Just wondering about how much actual money that means

DoraExplorer99 · 03/02/2019 19:55

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 03/02/2019 21:15

So Yawn has lost at least 4 hours of her Saturday evening (minimum of an hours drive each way and 2 hours there at a guess) plus petrol, all for £26 and the vague hope that one of the guests will be recruited?

Who covers the cost of the products, masks, the silly hand bands, the plastic bowls etc? Yawn or the lowly bot?

Either way i can't quite work out who benefits from the whole performance.

I guess Yawn does (otherwise why would she bother) but it's literally for pennies or that she's taking a gamble that it might benefit her in the long-run but only if it involves a recruitment of someone who then recruits etc etc ....Confused

DoraExplorer99 · 03/02/2019 21:18

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 21:24

All but Yawn's travel expenses will have been covered by lowly Bot.

She may have sold £200 worth of products (and very likely started alienating friends), for a small profit (Dora may be able to tell us how much), but she will also have purchased all the products that were trialled/demonstrated, which can no longer be sold, as well as paying for drinks and nibbles.

Yawn will have made her cut on the trial/demo products bought by lowly Bot as well as those actually sold. Not that this would really make it worth 4 hours of a Saturday evening, but she is the only one making something out of it.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 21:28

@DoraExplorer99 - if we both mean Castle's eux-copper BFF, she says on 6 January that she is exited to share that this is the fifth time she has qualified for a share of the company's profits.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/02/2019 21:32

ex, not eux, and excited, not exited. Been watching bots too long - doesn't do my spelling or punctuation habits much good.

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BSintolerant · 03/02/2019 21:38

Why are they always "super excited"? Super is such a 1950s word.

DoraExplorer99 · 03/02/2019 21:41

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Paddy1234 · 03/02/2019 21:52

I want to know if Bruv has qualified as he has soooooooo many business partners

And also waiting for Sis big news

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