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MLM Bot Watch 46 - Lies, damn lies, and attraction marketing

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 31/01/2019 21:16

The continuing crusade to expose the underhand tactics used to lure (mainly) women into exploitative schemes using the lure of 'financial independence'.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 14:29

Been there for over eight years.
My bot finally moved out 10 days ago.
It's a massive relief, especially as the way it is being managed means the kids seem to be taking it in their stride.
Frustrating that I can't really discuss with anyone why she has moved out (because I told her I could no longer put up with her deluded behaviour and jeopardising the kids' futures), as she is putting her own spin on it (I wasn't supportive of her endeavours) and I don't want to upset the applecart and risk acrimony that would affect the kids.
Still, over the moon that they are no longer having aloe goop and pointless supplements shoved down their throats every morning, are using proper toothpaste and will finally get their potentially life-saving vaccinations.
It's also amazing how much space is freed up when eight years' worth of unused stock is cleared out!

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BangingOn · 01/02/2019 14:45

Oh Twenty I’m so sorry it’s come to this. It makes me so angry that MLMs devastate relationships in this way.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 15:02

The greatest relief is the exit of the delusion goal board, replete with pictures of fairly mundane benefits, all of which would have been easily achievable had she taken a part-time J.O.B.
What makes me angriest is that the boys were denied those throughout the bulk of their childhood so that she could go around introducing herself as an 'independent business owner' and 'creator of dreams', while clearing 2k, if that...

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 15:04

That 'dream board' was more like a 'taunt board' - look at what you could have if it wasn't for FLP...

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BangingOn · 01/02/2019 15:11

Fucking hell Twenty. Do you think that she will keep going now she’s moved out? Not digging for the financial details of your separation, but running two homes is clearly more expensive than running out jointly, so she might feel the bite even more now.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 15:21

@BangingOn - the irony of the situation is that she now has a J.O.B., that pays for her living in someone's loft extension, which is what has enabled the separation.

She has 'been doing less' of the FLP, but puts her lack of success down to my 'negativity', so she may now devote more time to it...

Sure, as a pair, our expenses have gone up with her rent, but what little money she previously made (mainly OUR tax credits) was spent exclusively on her attraction purchases anyway...

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Paddy1234 · 01/02/2019 15:29

I know it sounds ridiculous but I could probably deal with the fall out of my OH having a one night stand than joining an MLM.
I know that sounds awful but it is actually the way I feel

9dartfinish2nd · 01/02/2019 15:48

@Twenty If you don't mind me asking, Do you think the uplines or any other friends from FLP had anything to do with her turning on you like that and accusing you of negativity?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 15:50

Paddy- it's more like an ongoing long-term affair, with brainwashing and being turned into a financial black hole thrown in.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 16:05

@9dartfinish2nd - if not them personally, then all the mindset/law of attraction events/books/DVDs/personal coaching telling her that she could only succeed if she shut her ears to those that didn't believe in her 'dreams'...

When she first spoke about FL, I did a bit of due diligence research and the economic model (this is inherent to MLMs) was clearly unsustainable. She reacted quite badly when I told her so, so my reaction was to bite my tongue, foolishly thinking facts (as in not making the fabulous sums promised) would eventually prevail.

I hadn't accounted for the brainwashing aspect though.

Despite the fact that I would cart her and her kit to various school fautes and other events, fund her travel to 'success' events and pretty much look after the kids in my own every weekend as a result, I was deemed 'unsupportive' because I always brought up the bottom line (I thought you were actually supposed to make money from this?).

It kind of dawned on me when I commented on some of the ludicrous rent-a-quote motivational messages she was constantly posting (most of our mutual acquaintances had quietly blocked her and were expressing concern to me).Her reaction was that I should just un friend her if her 'finding her wings' bothered me.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 16:06

*fayres, not fautes

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Whiterangey · 01/02/2019 16:12

The excuses for no cheques and lesser amount cheques will be the same old 'I didn't work my business last year, yet still got a trip to Stockholm'. That's what Yawn will say despite working constantly the whole year.

Hunbot · 01/02/2019 16:19

I am so sorry twenty.

Can I ask (and you don't have to answer) but were things OK before forever or is it literally this that has caused your break up?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 16:19

@Whiterangey - Yup, it's all about putting a positive spin on absolutely everything.

I have had to leave the family home because I became a brainwashed liability and squandered my inheritance pouring money into a cultish pyramid scheme I have finally escaped from the negative influences holding back my business, now success is guaranteed!

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ArbunneHun · 01/02/2019 16:21

@Twenty I wish you & the children strength and love.

Any news on Castle & Siblings regarding Chairman’s Bonus?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 16:29

@Hunbot - no relationship is ever perfect. Of course there were various issues. We had been together 12 years when she joined FLP, our kids were 7and 3.

However, those issues were usually dealt with (if not always resolved) within a framework of rational discussion. As soon as the mindset/law of attraction stuff made an appearance, any semblant of rationality or common ground went out the window, making this impossible.

With hindsight (nod to my MN handle), she always had a tendency to personalise any disagreement (you don't agree with my assertion that 2+2 = 5 because you don't respect my opinion), rather than deal with facts, but it was certainly multiplied by thousands when she joined FLP.

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Hunbot · 01/02/2019 16:41

I hope that you can recover and be strong for your kids. Good luck twenty

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 16:43

@ArbunneHun - thanks, and no hint so far on Castle or siblings' FB.

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Hunbot · 01/02/2019 16:45

Just saw wig and sleezes 2000 victims post. 3 zoom calls a day? What the hell do they talk about 3 times a day? Thought they were meant to be their own boss and set their own hours?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 17:12

Yawn's finally posted about the Global Rally (so excited, all expenses paid trip to Sweden) - no CB cheque then...

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cozietoesie · 01/02/2019 17:23

What actually do these 'trips' consist of ? Are they genuine down time/pleasure seeking - or not?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 17:44

Cozie - They are lifetime opportunity trips, replete with corporate training events, a day packing food aid for charity, and two evenings of synchronised eking, a-whooping and a-hollering as bots more fortunate than yourself get awarded tasteful oversized cheques.

There are so few qualifying for the trip (let alone the cheques) from the UK this year that they have created a whole new incentive whereby you can win the chance to pay your own expenses in order to have some people there.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 17:46
  • eeking, not eking (although most are barely eking out a living).
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spanfan · 01/02/2019 17:50

Really sorry to hear of your break up. It's tough. XX

So, in other news, valentus bots are orgasmically excited about someone getting to Structured Emerald. There have been tears and everything!!! And one a live my fave bot is overwhelmed.

Apparently getting a promotion when your self employed is extra special. Is that not an oxymoron???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Anyone know what wondrous rewards a structured emerald gets. It sounds painful. X😂😂😂😂

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/02/2019 18:03

Speaking of Valentus, is it just me, or is the young rising star pretender (not sure if we have a bot handle for her) looking more like Salon by the day?

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