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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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SSDGM · 03/07/2018 19:00

Not sure.. It’s cured Bradford Bot. Has it done the same for someone else?
I’m sure it wouldn’t be anything to do with the passing of time, liquids and electrolytes.

Whiterangey · 03/07/2018 19:26

Yawn is doing worse than I realised.

Firstly the photos and working lunch with her husband are so posed. He looks bored shitless and like he's checking facebook on his phone. He does nothing related to their 'business' except the accounts. If you were a business couple as well as a romantic couple, you would sit next to each other so you could go over things together.

Though going through this weeks appointments wouldn't take long, her diary is totally clear except for one thing which obviously got cancelled as she has crossed it out.

That isn't a diary of a busy professional business person. When you are trying to find a space for a meeting in your diary is when you are a busy professional business person.

She just accidentally proved how bad things are. She obviously had nothing to do today, hence the staged lunch meeting. Going for a business lunch meeting in gym gear? Which is what she is wearing.

Though since coming back she has 12 personal coaching sessions booked. Awesome! Wow!

They are people she has already scammed to give her money, I guess she is going to brainwash them some more to give her more money.

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Lonelybutnice · 03/07/2018 20:15

Anybody follow Eric Worre on FB? He's just posted a particularly appalling text message prospecting post about how to prospect old acquaintances Angry I can't believe there are no negative comments on it. Yet. Grin

Whiterangey · 03/07/2018 20:33

What are peoples thoughts on TS Shite?

After reading earlier someone saying they felt that Messiah will just screw everyone over and disappear with the money I thought that is likely what he will do.

I hadn't even thought of that, thought things would go downhill pretty fast and the company wouldn't last long, but him just running away with the money hadn't occurred to me, but it makes perfect sense given who it is.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/07/2018 20:58

@Whiterangey - That is very much the modus operandi of this kind of scam, similar to the crypto/car/whatever Wig pushes.

Big build up, lots of pre-launch opportunities to 'lock in', 'secure a place', 'get trained', 'pre-order', etc...

Followed by a few confused posts wondering where it's all gone...

Sean1984 · 03/07/2018 21:00

Spongebobette , hun , head office cant tell them what to do or say hun, their “self employed independent biz owners” dont ya know that by now!!! ekkkkkkkkkkGrin

Norma27 · 03/07/2018 21:16

Just had a fun half hour reporting a load of nuskin bots for unauthorised sales on personal fb pages. Don’t know if anything happens but it was fun!

ArbunneHun · 03/07/2018 21:25

Wig’s crypto scam has taken a $50 investment and turned it into $13812 in just 6 weeks through “the power of compounding”. Wow! I need to get me some of this brilliant financial “compounding” and make $655 a week of (totally real and not just numbers on a screen) profit!

Whiterangey · 03/07/2018 22:47

@Norma27 i've been reporting all bots I come across who are selling on their pages, so far nothing.

Not surprised, Facebook are notoriously crap at dealing with stuff like that.

I figure if enough people report people then Facebook may remove an account or two, even one is better than none.

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SSDGM · 03/07/2018 23:36

Will someone please have a word with Broke? He’s now gushing over all his new spray miracles including the ones that are actually illegal to sell in the UK. He’s like a stuck bastard record. They’re “flying out”. Just like the coffee, just like the holidays, just like the last sprays. These ones are up to $86 EACH RRP.

He’s been doing it for 3 days. Three. I want to grab him by the shoulders and shake him🤦🏻‍♀️

Whiterangey · 04/07/2018 02:49

He's doing a good thing.

One of his bots is already a senior manager, 2 promotions in 24 hours or 3 promotions in 48 hours, whatever it is, it's a lot of promotions in a short space of time.

Bet nobody can say that about their J.O.B can they?

How has he got any money left? This muse be being financed by benefits, which isn't a lot of money to begin with, so they really must be struggling with 3 kids, no tax credits for the 3rd, and him spending a lot of their money on the MLM du jour.

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Lonelybutnice · 04/07/2018 07:24

What's happened to Elle-Beau?

Spongebobette · 04/07/2018 07:37

'Qualified for matrix infinite pay'

What.

Whiterangey · 04/07/2018 07:47

@Lonelybutnice Mass reporting by bots got her page shut down

She has set up a new page Elle Beau Emergency Shelter

Totally not shocking, they did it to Timeless Vie. If you can't beat them, mass report them until they get shut down. It really really sucks, but it won't stop anyone from shouting out the truth.

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SSDGM · 04/07/2018 08:12

Senior manager: has placed an order and has 3 people in the downline that have also placed an order in the last 31 days.

I can’t see how that makes you qualified to “manage” anything or anyone, but there we are.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
Nakedavenger74 · 04/07/2018 08:39

Broke's new 'senior manager in a day' bot looks sick of it all frankly.

9dartfinish · 04/07/2018 08:40

I'm starting to see more and more the word "Manifestation" being used on some bots posts.
A quick google and quelle suprise it's the good old Law of Attraction.

"step one is to define what you want to manifest. And, as explained elsewhere, you must have a strong desire for that outcome to happen, resolute belief that it will happen, and a high level of expectation or expectancy that it is possible for it to happen. There are many techniques to do that.
Next, you must take some action to achieve your desired outcome, to bring your vision into reality.
And the final step is to allow the universe to manifest your outcome without worrying about how it’s to be achieved"

Where do you even begin with this horse s**t?

Whiterangey · 04/07/2018 09:57

How can Broke be totally in love with certain sprays when he hasn't even physically held one of them, let alone tried one.

How can anything to do with cannabis be useful in weight loss? I know that it can be useful for people with poor appetites through illness or treatment such as chemotherapy, but i've never heard of anything to do with cannabis being used to aid weight loss.

I know it's not proper cannabis and the CBD oil that is legal in the UK has never been clinically tested for anything, but you'd still expect anything that had once been a cannabis plant to come with free snacks.

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Norma27 · 04/07/2018 10:36

Yawn has been invited to a picnic! Wow really living the dream there.
Unfortunately she can’t make it tho. Maybe she can’t afford the petrol.

BangingOn · 04/07/2018 11:30

What are the Bots reporting Elle Beau and Timeless Vie for? I don’t understand what they were doing wrong.

Norma27 · 04/07/2018 15:19

Elle Beau is getting really well known and new mlm recruits are often advised to read it by anti mlmers. The bots see it as a threat and so will find anything to report it. Bloody dicks! Same happened to timeless vie.
They’ve done nothing wrong, the bots are just trying to shut down anything which exposes them for what they really are.

FleeBee · 04/07/2018 15:33

Does anyone know what this means in plain English? It's all about a cleanse day HmmHmm

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
Spongebobette · 04/07/2018 15:37

that is the biggest load of shite ever

liver and kidneys 'cleanse your system' every second of every day

SSDGM · 04/07/2018 16:29

It’s designed to cleanse you of any excess money you may have lying around.

ArbunneHun · 04/07/2018 16:40

...and cleanse you of your few remaining friends who object to you trying to sell them this bollocks.

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