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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Whiterangey · 02/07/2018 20:17

She wants to be like Bloodsucker, if she acts like Bloodsucker, then she will end up earning like Bloodsucker.

Who wears the exact same type of jackets as the one Yawn is wearing? Bloodsucker.

That is why Yawn is wearing it and has been wearing it at every opportunity this year..

It's probably some law of attraction thing, that if you dress and act like someone you want to be then it will happen.

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Norma27 · 02/07/2018 20:30

That is so true. It is like the saying ‘don’t dress for the job you have, dress for the job you want to have’.
Why anybody would want to be like bloodsucker is beyond me. I would love to have more money, but being a decent, honest person who doesn’t try to screw over every person I meet is much more important to me.

Orchardgreen · 02/07/2018 20:43

I have just asked one of Yawns pals for the scientific basis that propolis stops chicken pox itching..

Whiterangey · 02/07/2018 21:32

@Orchardgreen Are you blocked yet?

Asking awkward questions is a big no.

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Spongebobette · 02/07/2018 21:41

awkward questions?

ANY questions!!

Whiterangey · 02/07/2018 23:16

That is true.

Just realised what Yawn said in her post where she is wearing her Dutch Jacket "you know it works (as long as you do 😉)"

So 99% of the people that Yawn has coached over the past 9 years haven't worked.

She's a bit crap then, what kind of a coach is she that so many people she has bought into the company have failed?

A rubbish coach, that is what she must be, she should be ashamed of herself, if she actually had any shame, or a conscious, or any shred of humanity.

Even her brand new supervisor and brand new manager have had to pay more than they have earned to get their titles, and will continue to lose money when what they need to spend out has been accounted for.

Looks like the only one making any money is Yawn, and that is dwindling fast, as is her credit rating as she tries to get a bank loan to keep her going for a bit longer.

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ArbunneHun · 03/07/2018 05:24

Choked with happy tears: Wig ‘n’ Sleaze, our Crypto Powercouple are BACK IN THE GAME! It’s on, huns.

ArbunneHun · 03/07/2018 05:39

Speaking of Crypto... good article here about high-pressure selling & risk by Which? Money:

www.which.co.uk/news/2018/07/inside-the-bitcoin-bubble-which-investigates-the-crazy-world-of-cryptocurrency/

MLMsuperfan · 03/07/2018 05:50

Great article.

GrimDamnFanjo · 03/07/2018 09:02

I'm normally more of a Forever watcher but I'm becoming more and more interested in Doterras strategy.
Last month a business coach I follow suddenly got into the game and her marketing is fascinating.

Maranello4 · 03/07/2018 09:30

Never heard of Doterra so did a quick google /twitter search - surprise surprise the first thing it brings up is about their work in the community Hmm

Whiterangey · 03/07/2018 10:07

Is Doterra the one where one of their 'business owners' commented to someone that they should try oils on their extremely sick father who was in a coma in hospital?

Screenshots were posted on one of the anti-mlm facebook pages. It took me two whole days before I managed to get my jaw off the floor after reading that one. It was either Doterra or the other essential oil company whose name i've forgotten.

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Spongebobette · 03/07/2018 10:17

"network marketing is now recognised as a great business model"

apparently

Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/07/2018 10:50

@Spongebobette - So they're digging that one up again!

I remember claims right, left and centre about MLM being the way of the future, and how it was taught at Harvard School of Business.

I think it died down when Harvard issued numerous cease & desist warnings, along with a statement that they never did, and never would, endorse network marketing.

ArbunneHun · 03/07/2018 12:52

The quote attributed to Bill Gates is also bollocks.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/07/2018 13:04

You've just shattered my world Arbunne.

Next, you'll be telling me that the Einstein 'Law of Attraction' quotes are also made up bullshit!

Meanwhile, has Roomie just posted a selfie taken while she's driving without a seatbelt?

That usually attracts a fine & points on your license.

Norma27 · 03/07/2018 13:39

Yawn is really trying to persuade everyone that they now lead a dream life thanks to forever shite. Me think she doth protest too much.
Give it a rest you bloody liar.

Norma27 · 03/07/2018 13:42

Roomie is not about to do another c9 is she? She has only just done one. Things are so desperate.

SSDGM · 03/07/2018 14:00

It’s the culture of MLM though, isn’t it? It tells women there is something wrong with their bodies and you must spend lots of cash to put these perceived “flaws” right. Obvs, when these cures don’t work you clearly haven’t tried hard enough so must do it again. Ugh.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/07/2018 14:02

She'll be lucky if she ropes in enough others to cover the cost of her C9.

Now, it would be a terrible thing to suggest that this is purely an exercise in selling C9s, while pretending to do one yourself, in order to save in the expense (and hunger pangs).

Norma27 · 03/07/2018 14:30

Now surely the bots could not be that devious. Well blow me down with a feather. After I have completed my c9 obviously!

Spongebobette · 03/07/2018 15:06

Bots are STILL making medicinal claims for aloe gloop!! I thought that they'd been told to stop by head office???

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
GrimDamnFanjo · 03/07/2018 16:16

I came across Doterra when a "heartc entered" business coach I follow suddenly started giving away free business coaching in, surprise, surprise, having a Doterra business.
Then I saw that another similar coach, with a very big following, started something similar last year in Australia.
The Australian at least has a big enough list to create a large down line and the majority of them are into woo, loa stuff so well targeted by Doterra.

SSDGM · 03/07/2018 18:47

Organo Gold cures sunstroke. So, that’s nice isn’t it?

Whiterangey · 03/07/2018 18:56

What happened to the thread regarding the sunstroke on facebook?

Did it get deleted? I was reading it, turned notifications on, and then had to go out, came back and it was gone, just like a network marketers dreams when they check their bank of Fri-Pay.

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