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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Whiterangey · 17/08/2018 18:04

I'm sorry, but that tragic murder had absolutely nothing to do with anything apart from the fact that the husband is a murdering piece of shit.

When a man murders his family there is always some kind of excuse, like she was going to leave him and he didn't want to lose his family or some other kind of rubbish like that.

Being made bankrupt and then your wife making money does not suddenly turn someone into someone capable of murdering children, neither does your wife threatening to leave you or anything else.

Look at your children and work out what would make you capable of murdering them, the answer will be absolutely nothing would make you capable, nothing at all.

This isn't to do with MLM, this is a murdering scumbag who deserves to rot for all of eternity.

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BangingOn · 17/08/2018 18:15

Having an account with TUI is optional, we could make changes to our booking using just the surname, booking reference and departure date. I booked extra legroom seats that way, selected seats from the seating plan and although I didn’t need to cancel there was an option to do so.

That said, I don’t think her holiday was really cancelled either.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 17/08/2018 18:26

Well said whiterangey

ArbunneHun · 17/08/2018 18:43

She posted her booking reference, the date of travel, the location she booked all online. Her name and email address are also easily available. I think someone could very easily have cancelled her holiday - she made it so.

Whether they did or not is another matter. But they could: that’s the danger of living your life so completely online and sharing so much. It’s beyond foolhardy.

Whiterangey · 17/08/2018 18:44

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BangingOn · 17/08/2018 18:49

I really don’t think anyone did, but they certainly could have done.

DoraExplorer99 · 17/08/2018 19:28

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mishfish · 17/08/2018 19:33

I'm sorry, but that tragic murder had absolutely nothing to do with anything apart from the fact that the husband is a murdering piece of shit.

Well said. The previous posts are nothing more than victim blaming.

Norma27 · 17/08/2018 19:40

Looks like Herbashite are copying forevershite in shite luggage as a reward

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
Spongebobette · 17/08/2018 19:43

Oh yes totally agree that the man who killed his family cannot blame it on MLM. He’s a murderer, pure and simple.

My previous post was saying that I hope the family’s financial circumstances are made public at the trial and that the MLM fantasy that she was a high earner is exposed

Sean1984 · 17/08/2018 19:49

Ekkkkkkk huns,now we can spot both FL and herbalife at rhe airport and run a mile,ekkkkkkkkkkk

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 17/08/2018 20:16

Yawn is telling students who failed their A Levels not to worry because she failed her exams and is living the dream life.

Whiterangey · 17/08/2018 20:17

With the murder I wasn't saying anyone here was wrong, it's the sodding news stories. It really really pisses me off the way they report family murders. It gets worse if the murderer, usually the man, kills themselves as well.

"Was husband who killed his pregnant wife and kids bitter over her sudden success?"

The headline from the daily fail, all news articles will carry similar headlines, and content.

It was obviously her fault because she was a success, poor guy having to watch his wife do all the success stuff while he didn't, it's no wonder he snapped, he was such a great guy, such a tragedy, blah blah blah.

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 17/08/2018 20:47

Does anyone remember that time that Roomie posted about her live training/team session to X hundred teamies but her screenshot actually showed an audience of 8?

Well tonight she's presenting to (plucks number out of the air) 12k .....yeah, right 🤔. No screenshot this time though lol!

Norma27 · 17/08/2018 21:17

Ha ha roomie that is brilliant.
No doubt all to do with mindset training. If I tell myself and others that I am training 12k then I am training 12k.
Or maybe she doesn’t realise k=1000. She could mean 12 people. Including herself. And her husband. And her kids.

Whiterangey · 17/08/2018 21:41

She said she is presenting to 12k people on a team page. Castle's Bruv has 7k people who like his page.

On a totally unrelated subject did you know you can buy facebook likes for your page?

It's possible that Roomie made a presentation on a page that has 12k likes, which means 1 person may have watched her for a few seconds.

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DoraExplorer99 · 17/08/2018 21:44

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 17/08/2018 22:07

So does Roomie actually believe that she's presenting to that many people or does she know that she's talking complete bullshit when she says 12k?

I'm thinking the latter unless she's really, really dumb. I'm pretty sure that she knows she's lying, it's become second nature and she doesn't care as long as it reels people in.

12k FFS!! If you're going to lie at least make it plausible.

RogueApostrophe · 17/08/2018 22:13

All bots are well-known for bending the truth to suit their needs. Of course Roomie knows that not all 12k of the Facebook members tuned in for her live but she's bigging herself up by pretending that she has that much of a captive audience.

On another note, has anyone seen the new H3 offering from some of the Arriiiiix bots? It's Gratitude & Mindset Overload!

Whiterangey · 17/08/2018 22:19

Roomie definitely knows, she's been caught out lying before about the amount of people watching one of her lives, this is no different.

Heartbreaking photos on her page of a new bot launching her business to an empty room. I hate launch photos where you know the bots head is full of dreams and that the very few people that actually show for their launch will be the biggest audience for their business they ever get.

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ArbunneHun · 17/08/2018 23:29

The Ariiiiiiix H3 spin off is not only #mindset overload, but is being passed off as a cure for anxiety, depression and a host of other mental health ailments. It’s been cobbled together by a couple of Ariiiiix leaders as a way for them to make some extra money on the side and is not only delusional but downright dangerous.

SamanthaJib85 · 18/08/2018 02:52

O that makes it ok for someone to cancel her children's holiday then yeah??

SamanthaJib85 · 18/08/2018 02:54

You don't 'think' anyone did yet fact remains they actually did... Regardless of what you think

SSDGM · 18/08/2018 05:06

No one has said it was “ok” to cancel the holiday. It’s totally not ok. It’s actually vile. However there are things you should do to protect your personal details in any circumstance, especially if you have a reputation that makes you not particularly well liked.

ArbunneHun · 18/08/2018 07:32

Oh dear... looks like Wig ‘n’ Sleaze’s new plastic clean up ponzi is in trouble. You’ll be amazed to heard that one of the management team has multiple convictions for financial fraud and has served time in prison. You might want to stop boasting about the bitcoin compounding, Sleaze. Better try and get your investment out while you can.