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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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Twentytwentyhindsight · 28/06/2018 22:15

No one in MLM ever has a fucking job to lose - they're all proud 'independent business owners' who have sacked their boss and are CEOs of their own lives!

Whiterangey · 28/06/2018 22:24

I wonder what the measurement of time between other bots hearing the announcement about Jamberry and posting offering Jamberry bots a place on their team was?

I imagine it was less than a second.

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Mlmcringe · 28/06/2018 22:45

One FLP girl got broken into and her car stolen. She’d been posting about it all over social media. They were in the house at the time, which is my worst nightmare. I think they must have been targeted because of her posts.

Whiterangey · 28/06/2018 23:18

I do think the using charities and those in vulnerable groups to make sales and gain bots does need more awareness.

If you see anyone doing anything for a charity you automatically think it's a good thing and if you are able to you want to support someone in raising money.

I now feel physically sick whenever I see Uber's face knowing that some of that $430k cheque was because she stood in a room full of breast cancer sufferers and survivors and handed out those stupid packs with shit products in them while she made a monetary profit and upped her CC's. She also may have recruited someone.

The worst thing is this isn't just Uber, this happens throught the MLM industry and it's disgusting and needs to stop.

How many charities are left thinking that a certain MLM are the best thing ever because they donated 300 bags full of crap? A lot.

It also seems like the amount of bags donated wasn't 300, or anything close to that number.

Notice she didn't publicly announce the amount of bags, which is strange. It's pretty standard when you fundraise for a charity to publish the exact amount raised and what you have done with it. The amount raised via justgiving is still there but some was raised via paypal.

Are charitable donations tax deductible?

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Whiterangey · 29/06/2018 00:07

Slide number 14 of Yawn's Summertime Masterclass.

Agenda:

Product Bingo
How to do a great product launch/pamper evening
How to do a great experience pack drop
New drinking gels
How to go Contact Marketing
Meet our brand new Supervisor
How to do a great prospecting phone call
How to do a great 121
The importance of the business presentations
How to seal the deal at the BP
How to overcome objections

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DoraExplorer99 · 29/06/2018 07:45

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 29/06/2018 09:12

A TSF Life mole sent this to me. It's the latest training. It's so bloody depressing. 'Someone who is overweight' is a particular favourite. What a bunch of parasites.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
SSDGM · 29/06/2018 10:12

That list may as well say “have you ever met a person?” 🤦🏻‍♀️

Whiterangey · 29/06/2018 10:17

Well, erm, it's certainly a list.

It's a list of everyone you have ever met, totally shocked that the midwife that looked after your mum while she was in labour isn't on there.

I'll go ask my doctor if she's up for a little MLMing. Not my dentist, not pissing off anyone who uses a drill anywhere near my mouth.

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Spongebobette · 29/06/2018 11:57

'your list IS your business in networking'

yup

Paddy1234 · 29/06/2018 14:14

How utterly depressing and dysfunctional to live your life where everyone around you is a potential customer.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 29/06/2018 14:33

Not just a potential customer Paddy- a 'Prospect', so also a potential recruit.

And remember, short of a punch to the throat, there is no such thing as a 'no', just 'not right nows'.

HamishTheTalkingCactus · 29/06/2018 14:55

"who is your boss" Confused yep, what a great idea trying to sell to/recruit your boss, can't see that possibly backfiring at all....

Twentytwentyhindsight · 29/06/2018 16:36

Employers are usually fine about you bragging about how you're going to fire them and become CEO of your life, as long as you offer them a place in your downline.

Whiterangey · 29/06/2018 16:45

Everyone who i've seen sign up for TS Shite has already been in network marketing before, some have been in many network marketing companies.

Everyone who has ever come into contact with them will have been asked to join their various teams 508978798.7 times already, though I guess they can be put down as a 'maybe'.

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CurlsandCurves · 29/06/2018 17:43

Hmmm...

Just watching ‘The Posh Frock Shop’ on channel 4. Bride to be describes herself as a health and wellness coach, which to me screams MLM. Her name is Rachel. What really made me think she’s a boy was they showed the proposal which was on a stage in front of 3000 colleagues. Just the whole look of it suggested to me it might have been a success day of some kind.

I could be completely wrong, but I wonder if anyone’s interested they could watch it back on catchup and see if they recognise her.

Never watched this programme before but I think I like it!

CurlsandCurves · 29/06/2018 17:44

I didn’t think she was a boy, I thought she might be a bot!

sunsunsunsunsun · 29/06/2018 17:48

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Whiterangey · 29/06/2018 17:52

Is it just me or are the FLP bots just doing next to no work at the moment? It's usually all over their facebook pages but they have all been quiet.

Castles latest accounts are available on companies house. To my uneducated and stupid at maths eyes it looks like she has had a huge fall in income over the past year.

No directors loan this year, which is wise, she obviously realises she may not be able to pay it back next year. The tax she didn't pay the year before as she took a loan caught up with her and that got paid this year.

As I said, to my eyes it looks like there is a lot less money going in than there were in previous years, but I am not educated in financial type stuff.

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SSDGM · 29/06/2018 20:13

Do you remember this time last year when Broke blabbed all over Facebook that he was going to sack his boss because he was shitting money selling Valentus so instead his boss sacked him? 😂😂

CurlsandCurves · 29/06/2018 20:38

Wonder if it’s come up on his Facebook memories, or Timehop, @SSDGM

Ah yes back then I thought that Valentus was the one. Just like I thought that other one was which turned out to be not the one. And that other one. And that other one. And that other one I did. But this one. THIS one. THIS is the one. This time next year...

Lonelybutnice · 29/06/2018 20:44

Just doing my nightly peruse of FLP bots and noticed Yawn's downline bot (husband who makes stick art thingys) has put a big post on about how she has booked a holiday with her second income.

I don't believe a single word of it. I got to supervisor level (which she just has) and I am still paying off the debt I got in to do so. I am convinced she's lying.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 29/06/2018 20:46

And he's the one whose motto is "Don't live the same year 75 times and call it a life"!

CurlsandCurves · 29/06/2018 21:01

@Twentytwentyhindsight oh, the irony!

Norma27 · 30/06/2018 08:13

Yawn has put a few pics up of the dogs. None of that kitten she has tho. Hope it is ok.

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