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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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BSintolerant · 10/08/2018 13:44

TS Life's website proves that The Messiah can speak in tongues. Just shows that word salad leads to verbal diarrhoea. The "tackle... family based prosperity” says it all.

Maranello4 · 10/08/2018 13:45

Juicebot has just put up an emotional video as they've just received a bonus cheque. Doesn't say how much but it's four figures and starts with a four Confused

Am I missing something here in thinking that this isn't very much? Yes £4K would be an amazing bonus if you were getting paid a minimum wage/ salary already, which this person won't be....

cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 14:25

I guess it depends what your personal situation might be......(If you're about to have something cut off or re-possessed, then receiving a letter which isn't 'red' could make you quite emotional.Smile

Whiterangey · 10/08/2018 15:06

I'd be more than happy to get a £4k cheque, less happy if i'd had to pay more than that over a number of months or years to get it, and knowing that most of it would be going straight back in to my bizniz, which is what will be happening here.

There is of course the possibility that she is lying, I know this would be an unusual thing for someone in an MLM to do, and is a bit of a bizarre theory, but it's one that I believe may just be true.

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cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 15:16

Many people in MLMs have a bad 'disconnect' when it comes to real figures, though.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 10/08/2018 15:29

I am EEEEEEEKING like crazy for TS Shite's launch day.
My favourite bit of the day will be the (alleged) thousands of sign-ups trying to flog that shit to each other.

BangingOn · 10/08/2018 18:45

Oh bugger. I noticed an old school friend had reactivated her Facebook profile and I was pleased to see she has a young baby. Unfortunately my MLM radar started tingling pretty quickly and was confirmed when I saw a photo of her old (but likely still current) car posted next to a photo of a new Mercedes in a dealership (and likely still in the dealership) with a caption about needing a new car now she has a successful ‘Mummy business’.

She appears to have fallen for Arbonne as a way to stay home with her baby. I can only imagine how desperate she is to believe the hype as she was previously in a senior commercial role at a big U.K. retailer and therefor very astute with a head for numbers and a nose for bullshit.

user1484830599 · 10/08/2018 19:03

I don't know how they convince intelligent people, who in normal circumstances would know better.

Mrs stickman is having a strop today about people slating network marketing businesses that have amazing products Hmm

How do they brainwash these people?!?! Is it like a cult?

BangingOn · 10/08/2018 19:05

I think it must be. They play on vulnerabilities and if someone is really desperate to be able to stay at home with their child whilst still contributing to the mortgage then it could seem like a perfect solution, or it least you want it to be so badly that your heart overrules your head.

cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 19:19

Emotions (coming from vulnerabilities) overrule sense and logic.

cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 19:21

And we all have vulnerabilities. (More so for some people.) Just different kinds.

Whiterangey · 10/08/2018 20:34

They hit you with the love bombing, make you feel like they are all your best friend and make you feel loved, easy to fall for that and to go along with it. These people love you and want the best for you, how can they be lying to you?

Then the talk of huge bonuses, the cars, holidays, and most importantly for those facing going back to work after maternity leave, being able to stay home and work.

Add the cult like tactics in, and they have another victim.

I remember reading an article about someone who went to a proper cult meeting with full knowledge that it was a cult, knowing it was bad, evil, and that they would employ brainwashing tactics. He said he had to fight the instinct to join with every fibre of his being, and he knew. The brainwashing and feeling of belonging when he was sitting there in just one meeting was so strong that he had to fight against it.

Nobody is immune, i'm certain that even any of us going undercover would find it a struggle not to get carried away.

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cozietoesie · 10/08/2018 21:44

Indeed.

DoraExplorer99 · 10/08/2018 21:46

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BangingOn · 10/08/2018 22:11

Too true Rangey.

Dora enjoy

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 11/08/2018 08:15

Mrs Stick is clearly part of Yawn's team as she has the same approach to "taking a week off work".

Mrs Stick's apparently taken this week off. Funnily enough I'd not noticed seeing as her FL posts are easily in double figures since Monday, she's also posted on a local fb page (tumbleweed moment there), she's placed an order and has spent time preparing for, and coaching, her team.

That would be like me booking a week off work and still having the phones redirected through to me, still being expected to attend the weekly planning meeting, reading/responding to all the emails and attending any interviews scheduled for that week.

Norma27 · 11/08/2018 09:22

Mrs stickman seems botted up to the max.
It is such a shame as no doubt she will look back at the first months/years even of her child’s life and regret that she spent so much time working to make money for this bloody cult.

Windmillsinsummer · 11/08/2018 13:53

I love reading your mlm threads as I once got lured into younique it cost me a fortune and I made no money at all. A younique bot on my friends list has been posting vague posts on her timeline about the conference happening at the minute how it's exciting and the best is yet to come eugh.

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 11/08/2018 16:24

One of Messiahs faithful few has broken a cardinal rule and told everyone on a live that recruitment is how they make money.

Willowsauntie · 11/08/2018 16:32

It was the #juicypayday yesterday, one bot said she had earned more in a month than her dad does and she is now off benefits. She also said that bots aren't allowed to disclose their actual monthly earnings... how do they attract people to the bizniz if they don't tell you what they earn?

cozietoesie · 11/08/2018 19:22

'Hint' - and rev up the car. Grin

Whiterangey · 11/08/2018 19:46

A few days ago Yawn posted something about her team finding out what their July bonuses were that evening. She is the only one commenting on her post where you would expect her team to comment with how overwhelmed they are at all the bonus money they earned.

My guess is they looked at their July bonuses and started crying and trying to get additional credit or a loan from somewhere, and that's just Yawn.

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Whiterangey · 11/08/2018 19:49

Uber is doing well on her 25 day shred. In only 9 days she has managed to work out how to pull her leggings up over her post baby belly, arch her back and lean back a little.

It's quite remarkable.

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Tizzlebizzle · 11/08/2018 21:37

And lift her arms higher too White.

One of her down like is running a raffle to win that bloody skin care set. 60 numbers at £1.50 each and winner takes all. Is that legal? Personal not bizniz page too.

Tizzlebizzle · 11/08/2018 21:37

Line not like.