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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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CurlsandCurves · 08/08/2018 21:04

Completely unrelated but. KellyMarie I love your username! I’m a massive Victoria Wood fan.

fromdownwest · 09/08/2018 12:31

Appears like the gym is their new toy, two days in a row they have been now. It's all about building habits.

I've been going for 6 years and have not posted one photo on Instagram!

If you are able to speak and Instagram whilst training, then you ain't training hard enough!

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 09/08/2018 15:55

Ahhhh in the latest episode of "Why the FBO is the customer", there's a flurry of FL reps offering the new skincare range out to test. Meaning they've been asked to buy one themselves and one to send out as testers. I'm not sure what it's retailing at but I can't imagine it's much less than £80-odd.

Spongebobette · 09/08/2018 17:22

Yes I have noticed that too, @dickiedavis!

What a great way for uplines to increase their CCs, get their minions to buy the whole set!!

Why do the minions never think to themselves 'why doesn't this company, if it is as generous as my upline keeps saying, provide sachets of samples for me so I can give them out??'

I mean, who wants to borrow a set which has been used by multiple people before anyway?? YUK

cozietoesie · 09/08/2018 18:18

Do they actually make sample sizes? Wink

JasperRising · 09/08/2018 21:05

Roomie has written a book. With a company that charge a minimum of £4k for a how to write a book programme. To be fair they do then help publish it but £4k Shock

What's the betting it is some kind of self help/law of attraction/live your dream life type thing?

ToowhitToowhoo · 09/08/2018 21:42

The TS Life website is live.........

Reading it makes my brain ache - Messiah hasn't employed any copy writer or editor to make it look and sound professional and reputable, oh no - the stream of unintelligible drivel is like watching one of his FB lives. Why say things simply and clearly when you can use a dozen long but inaccurate words instead, with poor grammar too. Clueless.

(I'm an infrequent long-term poster with a name change).

user1484830599 · 09/08/2018 21:45

Roomie has been writing that book for a hell of a long time. She'd have written it loads quicker if she stopped banging on about it and actually got on with writing it.

Spongebobette · 09/08/2018 22:03

'Golden triangle of success'

Hmm

Sounds like a pyramid

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 09/08/2018 22:07

I think Roomie's book is about her life, particularly her difficult childhood. No doubt it has an element of how she then turned things around and became the "positivity magnet" that she is today.

She frequently posts about it on Facebook as part of her "why".

Spongebobette · 09/08/2018 22:27

Hope someone proof reads it for her or it'll have entrapreneur all the way through it

RogueApostrophe · 09/08/2018 22:28

TS web site has BLOWN MY MIND! It's all about The Little Guy!

Annoyingly, no prices for the mint choc chip shite in a bag

RogueApostrophe · 09/08/2018 23:03

Yawn's latest post about not getting offended by things people say and rising above it. Is this the same woman that tried to get someone sacked for daring to say "yawn" on one of her posts?

cozietoesie · 09/08/2018 23:18

Did she succeed, though?? Smile

BSintolerant · 09/08/2018 23:24

I hope someone writes "Yawn" under her rise above it post. Grin

RogueApostrophe · 09/08/2018 23:28

I'd love to see how that one unfolds, BSIntolerant!

TrippleFlappyDiamondSparrow · 09/08/2018 23:42

LMFAO. I am dying at Wig and Sleeze hash tagging some of their photos and status's with #powercouple.
Who do they think they are!? 😂😂
They have no power, they are very obviously broke and everything they touch falls to pieces. They are so cringe that they make me want to crawl up my own arse.

In other news... where Salon gone, has she been locked up yet???

ArbunneHun · 10/08/2018 07:03

Crying with laughter at the Total Shite website. Messiah’s appalling pack shots are one thing, but inadvertently telling the truth because you don’t understand what the words & sentence construction mean is another.

Yes, Messiah, I think your scammy Little MLM will definitely “tackle... family based prosperity”.

I estimate him to be approx 0.5% as smart as he believes he is.

BangingOn · 10/08/2018 07:43

Reading it makes my brain ache - Messiah hasn't employed any copy writer or editor to make it look and sound professional and reputable, oh no - the stream of unintelligible drivel is like watching one of his FB lives. Why say things simply and clearly when you can use a dozen long but inaccurate words instead, with poor grammar too. Clueless.

Oh my goodness. I can just picture his smug little face, thinking he’s so intelligent and articulate.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 10/08/2018 09:21

That website is hilarious. We now know where Yawn sources all of her commas from - I don't think he's used a single one.
It also doesn't work properly, there are dead links and cul de sacs all over the place.

RogueApostrophe · 10/08/2018 09:45

Dickie - the comments from the Bots about the Total Shite web site include:

-It's amazing! But I didn't expect anything less.
-It's UNREAL & so professional
-Out of this world!!! Amazing!!!!
-Mind is absolutely blown
-Thanks its amazing so excited
-Beautiful site!!! Truly EXCITED.

And then the downright ludicrous:

Iv never had soooo many EEEeeekkkkkk moments😱😱 dancing around 💃💃n sleepless nites😴 through the Excitement of All This.

We will never have this experience of a pre launch again these last few months have been bloody amazing and i 100% believed in your visions

RogueApostrophe · 10/08/2018 09:46

That's a whole lotta excitement over a few pages with some fancy royalty-free images, no product prices and a fair amount of dead links

SSDGM · 10/08/2018 09:50

GOLDEN TRIANGLE OF SUCCESS!!!
😂😂😃😃😃

Spongebobette · 10/08/2018 10:30

it's quite straightforward to create a professional looking website using one of the many available packages, all you have to do is input your content.
He has not done that well at all.

ArbunneHun · 10/08/2018 13:41

It’s clear that he is so cock sure that his followers will treat anything he gives them like manna from heaven that he hasn’t spent a single penny on the website.

Imagine trying to launch a REAL product-based business with that crappy site? It would close in a week.