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MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?

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Whiterangey · 27/06/2018 19:38

Are charities being used by MLMer's to gain CC's, gain new leads, and get rid of stock?

Here is an example of a top Forever Living Business Owner in the UK taking advantage of a charity.

It may look like she is doing something good for the charity but she isn't. The charity will be getting 20% of profits. The business owner, the current UK number 2 in Forever Living, who recently picked up a $420,000 cheque at the Forever Living global rally in Dallas is just getting her Case Credits (CC's) up, and hoping to get new leads to sign up under her.

For everything that she sold Forever Living will have taking the biggest cut, then the business owners upline will have taken a cut, and then the business owner herself. Her profit will be very small and then she was only going to give away to the charity 20% of that. It could be as little as £10, probably a lot less, despite the members of the group spending hundreds of pounds with her. I hope she had the decency to at least add to it. For a 'charity night' where someone who has received multi-million dollars in cheques, and received $420k two months ago you'd expect at least 3 figures to be donated. 20% of her profits from that night will have been ridiculously small.

The charity will be getting even less as you can see she is running special offers which will come out of her profit, reducing the amount available to the charity even more.

As you can see in one of the screenshots someone in the local area of the charity attempted to warn the charity that the business owners motives may not be as charitable as it seems and the business owner wants to take the discussion away from public view, and then deleted the reply instead of giving a reply to show that the poster was wrong. She can't show the poster is wrong as the poster is right so instead chose to make it all go away.

The screenshot of a slide is one used by someone in the business owners downline, who correctly refers to the charity night as 'a launch' which is what it was, it wasn't for charity, it was for the business owner to sell her products and hopefully get some new recruits to her business.

The same business owner last year set up a justgiving page for donations to make up 'Positive Packs' to give to those suffering with breast cancer.

"The cost is 20 pounds which is non profit making and the pack value is worth far more. This will fund a Positive Pack containing Forever Toothgel, Aloe lips, Ever Shield Deodorant, fast break bar and some woolly socks and to every pack I will personally add a heat lotion, an aloe gelly and a herbal blossom tea sachet and an aloe to go."

So the donations will be used by the business owner to buy the items through her own account where she will make a profit from receiving a percentage of what is spent. She will also receive case credits from that. The case credits she received from sending out these Positive Packs will have gone towards her getting the $420k cheque in Dallas in April. So non-profit is not true as the business owner will be profiting in two ways.

The items can also be bought for a LOT less elsewhere, a tube of toothpaste can cost £1 from a supermarket, a stick of deodorant the same. I also wouldn't call toothpaste and deodorant something that anyone pampers themselves with, they are necessities.

The business owner will have used Forever Living products in the bags despite the recipients getting a lot less, and no luxury items, because she benefited herself from doing so. She also would have been able to, and did, use the Positive Packs to advertise Forever Living Products, and at least some of them were given out at a big presentation where the business owner would have been able to present her business opportunity there, some of whom are very vulnerable.

MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
MLM Bot Watch 41 - Forever Living charity giving, are MLMers using charities to increase their CC's while making it look like they are being charitable?
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BSintolerant · 11/08/2018 22:21

Has anyone read The Confidence Game by Maria Konnikova? All the sneaky tricks these awful MLM schemes employ are between these pages. Unsurprisingly there are some case studies of brazen Ponzi schemes. It's fascinating how easy it is to fool people to join an amaaaaayzzzing opportunity when you know how. It also explains why so many people who have lost a lot of money on failed schemes think the next one is going to be so much better and this time next year they'll be millionaires.

moose23ishungry · 12/08/2018 00:37

I see Roomie has posted a reality post about her return flight in economy. Saying the next trip will be in business. Sure sure!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 12/08/2018 07:18

But surely if MLM and the Laws of Attraction worked she would have been in first class this time (and going to Mauritius not Turkey) seeing as she's been with Forever Lying for 4 years or so?? Hmm

user1484830599 · 12/08/2018 08:39

She's such a snob!

SSDGM · 12/08/2018 09:34

Who’s she flying with? There’s no such thing as Business on a mass market charter flight.

SSDGM · 12/08/2018 09:41

Ah, she flew with Tui. On a cheap package holiday to a cheap, mass market destination. What else does she expect? What an absolute bellend.

NotGoodAtMakingFriends · 12/08/2018 10:22

@rainbowfudgee I follow that Bot too, she was claiming recently on Instagram that she earns 10k per month!

Can someone please PM me who Yawn is?

CurlsandCurves · 12/08/2018 10:31

Loved Roomies holiday posts about going to see Ed Sheeran.

Except you weren’t going to see Ed Sheeran. You were going to watch an Ed Sheeran tribute act done by one of the reps in the hotel. I’ve seen someone else on Facebook post a clip of him.

Such a fibber.

DoraExplorer99 · 12/08/2018 10:59

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2018 11:30

Roomie is hilarious

Every now and again the positivity mask slips and she shows her real feelings such as about noisy neighbours and that flight back from holiday. Then she's back to false positive

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 12/08/2018 12:38

Sacked had posted about her mystic powers to sniff out bullshit. Is this about messiah?

Whiterangey · 12/08/2018 13:01

Roomie recently came into some money, an inheritance I think, that is what has paid for her holiday and her newly acquired caravan.

She won't need to turn left on her next holiday because once that money has gone, which will be soon given that she is in an MLM and will attempt to buy rank, she won't be able to afford a holiday. Will likely end up selling the caravan in a couple of years as well.

Also, what does she expect on a budget flight? The purpose of which is to get you there and back as cheaply as possible.

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Whiterangey · 12/08/2018 13:39

Sacked is definitely talking about Messiah.

As for websites, my Husband used to design websites, very good ones. I was always his first tester and my views were very important, not because I could tell if it was technically brilliant but because I use a lot of websites and could let him know if they were easy to use and everything made sense.

Websites with video and sound are horrible, everybody hates them, his website is shite.

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CurlsandCurves · 12/08/2018 22:24

Quick, bbc2 now ‘Lost boys, what’s going wrong with Asian men’

Mlms are featuring now.

YouOKHun · 13/08/2018 00:14

Watched the documentary on iplayer curls thanks for the heads up. The MLM featured is ACN (which obviously the BBC couldn’t name). Nasty set up and sad watching the young men fall for the typical MLM rubbish.

cozietoesie · 13/08/2018 01:18

Yes indeed. Thanks, curls. Worthwhile to watch - although depressing.

SSDGM · 13/08/2018 11:00

sacked bot had to borrow money and get her kids to sell their stuff to afford a £1300 holiday in the Balearic Islands. Outside school holidays.

How the mighty have fallen. Those biznizz skills were clearly not transferable.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 13/08/2018 11:36

I don't know why sacked didn't book a last minute deal in the final week of the holidays.

SSDGM · 13/08/2018 11:54

Still expensive. Would have cost her £2k+ last week of the hols to that resort holds it price.

Ladiva1971 · 13/08/2018 11:58

Wow. Who actually puts their holiday reference booking details online? Seriously....

Spongebobette · 13/08/2018 12:31

And who boasts about taking her children out of school in the middle of September which is a crucial time for them in their new year!!!

Whiterangey · 13/08/2018 13:48

That is pretty stupid, someone could cancel it, she has plenty of people who aren't happy with her.

So she hustled to get herself a holiday, including borrowing money off a friend, who I doubt will see that money again. Plus she is taking her kids out of school which will incur additional costs.

With no money coming in either.

I'd take a guess that she is currently on benefits. So much for working her bizniz.

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NynaeveSedai · 13/08/2018 15:14

I so wish I knew who all these people were Grin

9dartfinish · 13/08/2018 15:35

One of the high up NuSkin bots I follow is cutting it damn fine filing her latest year end accounts at Companies House.......tick tock hun...careful you don't get fined.

Might get the popcorn at the ready.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 13/08/2018 16:10

Interesting that Yawn has had to do a 10 week Healthy Living course run by someone else , that isn't FL.

I thought that aloe was the answer to everything? I thought it was healthy and cleansing? I thought the various supplements gave you energy and helped you exercise? I thought the C9 reset your system, taught you from scratch how to eat healthily and sensibly ?

Clearly, I must have been mistaken Wink

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